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Old 06-22-2008, 10:33 AM
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Aussie Bomber Sequence
Here's a sequence to better evaluate AB's swing...couldn't capture any more frames from startdown to impact...it happens so fast.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:05 PM
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Tendon Pull
1-F ...The Right Arm can contribute Hand Acceleration to the Downstroke and support all elements of "Resistance to Deceleration".

Based on your swing video, I think you probably have plenty of Hand Acceleration.

Study 2-K and beef up those golf muscles and supporting tendons through fast twitch/explosive exercises and supplements if needed. Take the time to pay close attention to each muscle group involved in your swing from the Inner Quads, Hip Flexors, Glutes, to the Abs, Intercostals, Teres Minor and Major, Lats, Romboids, Triceps, forearms, etc. Concentrate on "tendon pull" but not to the extent you injure yourself.

Make it a point to isolate the feel of each active golf muscle in your swing, then work on strengthing, stretching, and feeding them to maximize their strength and flexibility - Especially the tendons to avoid injury, because they take more time to strengthen than muscle. As you practice, focus on one muscle group at a time and learn its function. Then work the heck out of it.

You are already doing this, so I'm preaching to the choir but other folks seeking distance would benefit.

2-K "Muscle Tendons pulling the Body, the Arms, and/or the Wrists around their centers."

To maximize Pivot Lag, allow the muscles and tendons to stretch and then pull the skeletal system via the tendons from the ground up, through each swing center to your hands. As one muscle group in the chain activates and pulls its succeeding swing center, you'll feel like you are leaving the clubhead at the top. Once you've reached your release point deep into the swing, do what you need to do with your hands to pull through impact.

Maximum Distance is achieved via Accumulator Lag through each swing center with a late release of each firing successively as 4,1,2,3. You have many key components snapping in line, but some accumulators appear to be released early such as #4 and #2, but its hard to tell from the video.

#4 is your Master Accumulator and its essence is pivot lag. Since your procedure is swinging, I think you would benefit from a lot of focus on pivot lag.

Clubhead Lag is a passive feel to your system. As you work on Pivot and Accumulator Lag all you have to do is make sure you don't turn passive clubhead lag feel into an active (driving) feel which quickly turns into throw away.

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Old 06-22-2008, 06:32 PM
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WOW Thank you guys!
Okay lots of great information here, thank you for taking the time for providing it. As is my style I will reply to everyone, so brace yourselves this could be a long post!!

Golfbulldog

Thanks for your great kick off post, you have certainly raised some great stuff.

What don't I like about my swing?

The things that I took out of seeing the video was:

- The pause at the top, I think my rhythm, timing and power could improve if I transitioned smoothly and allowed the motion to be free flowing rather than stop/start.
- I will be interested in people's take on the "bent left arm". I personally feel I am robbing myself of extensor action and by shortening my swing radius I am short changing myself on the power that I could have.
- Falling backwards: This is a tough one, I have a feeling that my left foot is driving "back" rather than "down". I also think that I am not making use of my full 210 lb frame by having it "going away" rather than "coming through".
- Stance width is possibly a little too wide resulting in lateral motion rather than a full rotary motion.

I am my own toughest critic and expect a lot from myself. Until I am at the top I won't be satisfied!

Optimal launch angles for LDers are 10-14 deg, low loft and hitting up comes from the theory of lowering spin rates below 2800 rpm. It has been found through LM testing that a ball with a spin rate of below 2800 will release to its maximum on landing. Less backspin, lower launch = more run.

I look forward to hearing the answers to the questions you have posted, thank you for your detailed contribution it is much appreciated.

HG:

Thanks for putting it into pics for me, no doubt it will be of great assistance to analysing my swing. Greatly appreciated.

Bagger Lance:

Thanks for your post, I couldn't agree more. I have actually been fortunate enough to be given access to a new fitness tool that has great applications for physical golf development. I will be certainly focussing on getting faster, more "elastic" and stronger to assist with my development.

Even though I am doing it, things can always be more optimal so having your contribution puts it in concrete for me! Thank you.

Developing Pivot Lag is definitely a concept I want to become more efficient in, I totally agree that aspects are releasing earlier than I would like. Are there any drills you could recommend?

I will read 2K again today and start applying what I can this week. Thank you once again for your contribution.
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Old 06-22-2008, 06:44 PM
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Long Drive Models
Hey guys I don't know how many of you are familiar with Long Drive so I thought I would give you some examples of the Long Drivers I admire and aspire towards.

1. Jason Zuback

Golf Zilla is the 5 time world long drive champion. He is a very powerful man and has been a dominant force in Long Drive for many years. Whilst I think his swing is one of a kind, I think there are many possible things I could learn in technique.



2. Mike Dobbyn

Current World Champion. Mike is huge... 6"8, 300lbs but has a very classic and efficient golf swing. He holds the longest recorded drive in the world.. 551 yards!!



3. Jamie Sadlowski

20 years old. 6'1, 180lbs. Jamie is not a big guy but man can he get it out there! 2 time World Junior Champion and 3rd in his first year in the open, Jamie is touted as the future of Long Drive. He is hitting great form currently with a reported ball speed of 217 mph in the recent Desert Duel.



Would appreciate "expert eyes" taking a look at these.


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Old 06-24-2008, 08:39 AM
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impact sounds great... mike d. has great footwork for a big man..your pause at the top isn't bad but you will find that with the added structure it will get harder to do that and maintain a fluid ,powerfull move through impact..pause isn't bad as long as you keep moving
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:15 PM
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Couldn't agree more!
Originally Posted by sdsurfmore View Post
impact sounds great... mike d. has great footwork for a big man..your pause at the top isn't bad but you will find that with the added structure it will get harder to do that and maintain a fluid ,powerfull move through impact..pause isn't bad as long as you keep moving
Thanks SD, I am in totally agreement with your comments, there must be continuous motion occuring somewhere. This creates flow and momentum. I am currently working on this in my training this week.

Thanks a lot for your input!


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Old 07-07-2008, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Aussie_Bomber View Post
Optimal launch angles for LDers are 10-14 deg, low loft and hitting up comes from the theory of lowering spin rates below 2800 rpm. It has been found through LM testing that a ball with a spin rate of below 2800 will release to its maximum on landing. Less backspin, lower launch = more run.
Worth noting that less loft and hitting on the upswing will also make for a more efficient transfer of power from clubhead to ball than a level swing with more loft...I think Wishon has proven that out, not 100% on who it was though.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:51 PM
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could someone comment on aussies comment about his left leg pushing back rather then down. Could this be his way of resisting the tremendous downwards force he creates from release?
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:51 AM
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It's hard to tell from the photos if you're doing this already but using the extra high tees it's easy to overlook measuring out your radius to the ball and instead simply have the club just above the ground and behind the ball rather than inside the ball as it would correctly be for the high tee position. If this is the case then you would have to shorten your radius to make a good strike and possibly through bending the left arm. However, if you hover the club at the height of the ball then this means nothing!
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:22 PM
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Interesting
Hey guys thanks a lot for the posts and things to consider.

Toolish:

That's very interesting would love to know where to read about that if you can tell me? To date have just had to go on the conventional wisdom of Long Drive with the lowering of the spin rate theory.

Powerdraw:

I would also be interested in people's comments. It is a throw back from other sports I have played mainly baseball/fastpitch softball where the lead leg was planted and pushed back so the rest of the body could accelerate over it. It is obviously causing some energy leakage being that I am 220lb and the body must be using a certain portion of the kinetic energy in the system to throw this backwards.

Am currently working on my foot and knee anchoring or "leg posting" as I term it in an attempt to correct and solve this issue so that more energy is transferred through the ball.

Mrose:

This is an interesting debate. I know Homer and the TGM gang preach extensor action and maintaining swing radius. I know that I have an elbow bend at the top of my backswing, I have tried and tried to eliminate it but I just cant seem to do it. In the search for power my body just wants to bend it. If I don't bend it I dont seem to cock my wrists as much. I spoke to a biomechanics expert on this topic and I was told that as long as it straightens on the downswing and is as maximum radius at impact their is no issue. It is an interesting debate and one that I encourage people to post on.

HK's focus (correct me if I am wrong) is on maximal loading of the club on the backswing and creating and sustaining lag on the downswing. I feel that this move enables me personally to load the club more efficiently and create greater lag in the downswing. Yeah it doesn't look pretty I agree, but in what I am competiting in there are no points for style - only distance! The only thing the ball knows is impact is it not?

Thanks for the post, definitely interesting!

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