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And there is a lot more Nowotny drills, too!

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ght=hand+speed

#3 ff. Thanks Yoda!
The Nowotny Drill
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ering if there are any "anti-chicken wing" drills?
bts,

The dreaded 'chicken wing' simply disappears once the student learns the correct Release Motion Through the Ball per 7-24. In other words, he must learn to correctly allow the Clubhead to Overtake the Hands. In turn, this means learning to Roll the #3 Accumulator (the In-Line Left Arm and Club) through Impact and Follow-Through and into the Finish Swivel. At our Secrets of The Golfing Machine Workshop last August, a student and I met the monster and tamed it with a drill that now bears his name. From a post I wrote last August, here is...

The Nowotny Drill

Always remember that the express purpose of this drill -- done without a Club -- is to isolate and coordinate the respective functions of the two Hands: Right Hand...Clubhead. Left Hand...Clubface.

The Left Wrist is positioned in its Flat, Level and Vertical Impact Alignment. It remains at all times within a few inches of this location. Its only function is to Turn a bit to the right on the Backstroke and Roll a bit to the left on the Downstroke. Meanwhile, the Right Forearm is 'brushing' by the Left Hand with the Right Forefinger Tracing the Plane Line. Do not slap the Left Hand with the Right or in any way interfere with the Right Hand's passage by the Left. The Feel of the Right Hand Overtaking the Left (and of the Clubhead Overtaking the Hands) -- all without breaking down the Flat Left Wrist -- is the whole point of this drill.

As the Right Forearm and Right Forefinger #3 Pressure Point brush above the Left Hand through 'Impact,' the Left Hand simply 'Closes the door' with a Roll. This 'Closing' Motion of the Flat Left Wrist is felt in the Left Forearm. It can be practiced as both a Hinge Action -- the Left Arm moves forward a few inches as the Right Forearm brushes by -- and as a Swivel Action -- the Left Arm doesn't move. Until the 'chen-winging' student gets the Feel of the Overtaking, I recommend the focus remain on the Swivel Action.

The drill should be executed in continuous motion, i.e., the Right Forearm swings back and through and back and through continuously. Again, for the Swivel Action version, the Left Arm simply remains in its Impact Location as the Left Wrist Turns and Rolls (from the 'swivel' in the Left Forearm) in sync with the passing Right Forearm.

The benefit of this drill is that it trains independently but coordinately:

(1) The Right Hand and Forearm to sense Clubhead Lag Pressure and Trace the Plane Line, thus controlling the Clubhead and its Line of Flight through the Ball;

(2) The Left Hand to Hinge and Swivel, thus controlling the Clubface and the Rhythm of the Stroke, i.e., the Clubhead Overtaking of the Hands during the Impact Interval (from Release to Finish Swivel).

Do not allow the simplicity of this drill to cause you to underestimate its importance. It has the potential to do nothing less than revolutionize your Golf Stroke and with it, your entire Game.

Think Dorothy and her full-color entrance into the Land of Oz!
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The Nowotny And The Endless Belt
Relating the Nowotny Drill to the Endless Belt Effect:

Remember, the Belt Speed, i.e, the Hand Speed, does not change. The Surface Speed of the Clubhead increases dramatically, but only because of the Pulley Wheel Encounter, i.e., the Release Point (Study 2-K #6 and 10-24-A/B/C/D/E).

For the 'Pulley Wheel Effect' to occur, the Right Hand must Overtake the Left and the Clubhead must Overtake the Hands. So...

Keep 'brushing the Plane Line with the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point and 'Closing the Door' with the Left Hand as the Right Forearm brushes by. Feel the Swivel (Sketch 2-K #4/#5) in the Left Forearm.
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That should get us through next week anyway!
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Old 12-04-2010, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
And there is a lot more Nowotny drills, too!

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ght=hand+speed

#3 ff. Thanks Yoda!
The Nowotny Drill
Originally Posted by bts
Just wond
ering if there are any "anti-chicken wing" drills?
bts,

The dreaded 'chicken wing' simply disappears once the student learns the correct Release Motion Through the Ball per 7-24. In other words, he must learn to correctly allow the Clubhead to Overtake the Hands. In turn, this means learning to Roll the #3 Accumulator (the In-Line Left Arm and Club) through Impact and Follow-Through and into the Finish Swivel. At our Secrets of The Golfing Machine Workshop last August, a student and I met the monster and tamed it with a drill that now bears his name. From a post I wrote last August, here is...

The Nowotny Drill

Always remember that the express purpose of this drill -- done without a Club -- is to isolate and coordinate the respective functions of the two Hands: Right Hand...Clubhead. Left Hand...Clubface.

The Left Wrist is positioned in its Flat, Level and Vertical Impact Alignment. It remains at all times within a few inches of this location. Its only function is to Turn a bit to the right on the Backstroke and Roll a bit to the left on the Downstroke. Meanwhile, the Right Forearm is 'brushing' by the Left Hand with the Right Forefinger Tracing the Plane Line. Do not slap the Left Hand with the Right or in any way interfere with the Right Hand's passage by the Left. The Feel of the Right Hand Overtaking the Left (and of the Clubhead Overtaking the Hands) -- all without breaking down the Flat Left Wrist -- is the whole point of this drill.

As the Right Forearm and Right Forefinger #3 Pressure Point brush above the Left Hand through 'Impact,' the Left Hand simply 'Closes the door' with a Roll. This 'Closing' Motion of the Flat Left Wrist is felt in the Left Forearm. It can be practiced as both a Hinge Action -- the Left Arm moves forward a few inches as the Right Forearm brushes by -- and as a Swivel Action -- the Left Arm doesn't move. Until the 'chen-winging' student gets the Feel of the Overtaking, I recommend the focus remain on the Swivel Action.

The drill should be executed in continuous motion, i.e., the Right Forearm swings back and through and back and through continuously. Again, for the Swivel Action version, the Left Arm simply remains in its Impact Location as the Left Wrist Turns and Rolls (from the 'swivel' in the Left Forearm) in sync with the passing Right Forearm.

The benefit of this drill is that it trains independently but coordinately:

(1) The Right Hand and Forearm to sense Clubhead Lag Pressure and Trace the Plane Line, thus controlling the Clubhead and its Line of Flight through the Ball;

(2) The Left Hand to Hinge and Swivel, thus controlling the Clubface and the Rhythm of the Stroke, i.e., the Clubhead Overtaking of the Hands during the Impact Interval (from Release to Finish Swivel).

Do not allow the simplicity of this drill to cause you to underestimate its importance. It has the potential to do nothing less than revolutionize your Golf Stroke and with it, your entire Game.

Think Dorothy and her full-color entrance into the Land of Oz!
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That should get us through next week anyway!

So the Hitter drives the # 3 PP Lag-laden past the FLW for maximum impact and hand speed into the ball. And the Swinger, as if they are playing from a bunker, pre-programs the moment, the speed, and the force of the Forward Swivel for the fraction of a second after impact!

This game is so easy!

Notes to self: the # 3 PP rotates around the FLW on PLANE to stay on PLANE throughout its journey from Address to Top/End to Finish :. (therefore) the FLW is always beneath the FBRW and always beneath the PLANE. EXTENSOR ACTION IS ESSENTIAL TO HOLDING THE # 3 PP AND THE WEDGES ON PLANE AND PRODUCING THE PROPER HINGE, IMPACT, and the ESSENTIAL SWIVEL UNLEASHING ALL THAT HAS GONE BEFORE AN PLANE! (Remember "5 Lessons!" A Swivel backs needs a
Swivel through! It's logical and simple! LEFT ANCHOR/LEFT SHOULDER BACKHAND DOWN-THE -LINE/CROSS COURT/ OR DROP SHOT/LOB!)




Especially with LBG!


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Old 12-05-2010, 09:57 PM
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My next five practice sessions.
Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
And there is a lot more Nowotny drills, too!

http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ght=hand+speed

#3 ff. Thanks Yoda!
The Nowotny Drill
Originally Posted by bts
Just wond
ering if there are any "anti-chicken wing" drills?
bts,

The dreaded 'chicken wing' simply disappears once the student learns the correct Release Motion Through the Ball per 7-24. In other words, he must learn to correctly allow the Clubhead to Overtake the Hands. In turn, this means learning to Roll the #3 Accumulator (the In-Line Left Arm and Club) through Impact and Follow-Through and into the Finish Swivel. At our Secrets of The Golfing Machine Workshop last August, a student and I met the monster and tamed it with a drill that now bears his name. From a post I wrote last August, here is...

The Nowotny Drill

Always remember that the express purpose of this drill -- done without a Club -- is to isolate and coordinate the respective functions of the two Hands: Right Hand...Clubhead. Left Hand...Clubface.

The Left Wrist is positioned in its Flat, Level and Vertical Impact Alignment. It remains at all times within a few inches of this location. Its only function is to Turn a bit to the right on the Backstroke and Roll a bit to the left on the Downstroke. Meanwhile, the Right Forearm is 'brushing' by the Left Hand with the Right Forefinger Tracing the Plane Line. Do not slap the Left Hand with the Right or in any way interfere with the Right Hand's passage by the Left. The Feel of the Right Hand Overtaking the Left (and of the Clubhead Overtaking the Hands) -- all without breaking down the Flat Left Wrist -- is the whole point of this drill.

As the Right Forearm and Right Forefinger #3 Pressure Point brush above the Left Hand through 'Impact,' the Left Hand simply 'Closes the door' with a Roll. This 'Closing' Motion of the Flat Left Wrist is felt in the Left Forearm. It can be practiced as both a Hinge Action -- the Left Arm moves forward a few inches as the Right Forearm brushes by -- and as a Swivel Action -- the Left Arm doesn't move. Until the 'chen-winging' student gets the Feel of the Overtaking, I recommend the focus remain on the Swivel Action.

The drill should be executed in continuous motion, i.e., the Right Forearm swings back and through and back and through continuously. Again, for the Swivel Action version, the Left Arm simply remains in its Impact Location as the Left Wrist Turns and Rolls (from the 'swivel' in the Left Forearm) in sync with the passing Right Forearm.

The benefit of this drill is that it trains independently but coordinately:

(1) The Right Hand and Forearm to sense Clubhead Lag Pressure and Trace the Plane Line, thus controlling the Clubhead and its Line of Flight through the Ball;

(2) The Left Hand to Hinge and Swivel, thus controlling the Clubface and the Rhythm of the Stroke, i.e., the Clubhead Overtaking of the Hands during the Impact Interval (from Release to Finish Swivel).

Do not allow the simplicity of this drill to cause you to underestimate its importance. It has the potential to do nothing less than revolutionize your Golf Stroke and with it, your entire Game.

Think Dorothy and her full-color entrance into the Land of Oz!
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The Nowotny And The Endless Belt
Relating the Nowotny Drill to the Endless Belt Effect:

Remember, the Belt Speed, i.e, the Hand Speed, does not change. The Surface Speed of the Clubhead increases dramatically, but only because of the Pulley Wheel Encounter, i.e., the Release Point (Study 2-K #6 and 10-24-A/B/C/D/E).

For the 'Pulley Wheel Effect' to occur, the Right Hand must Overtake the Left and the Clubhead must Overtake the Hands. So...

Keep 'brushing the Plane Line with the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point and 'Closing the Door' with the Left Hand as the Right Forearm brushes by. Feel the Swivel (Sketch 2-K #4/#5) in the Left Forearm.
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Well, Kev, it appears we might add some EA to our Monday agenda.
What I've done wrong so far is worry about the balance and power of Zone 1, my Pivot. when I've competed effectively though, I just concentrated on Zone 3, the hands, especially the "vertically un-cocking left wrist."

Using that focus helped me shoot my lowest scores last year. I was "beaten" into that defensive focus because of the complexity of TGM and my own confusion. Reading VJT's "Final Missing Piece..." has given me Zone 1, Pivot clarity, and the physics necessary to see what I had ignored, mostly, since last March.

The physics in VJ's book are pretty simple. The closer something is to a rotational center, the faster it will move. Therefore, the closer a Swivel is to impact, or for a Swinger, the feel of a complete Horizontal Swivel (Hinge and Swivel) from Top to Finish, is essential to having Educated Hands.

Zones 1 and 2 without Zone 3, are Pivot controlled strokes and, I believe, a one-way ticket to a low, double digit hcp. Basic Motion must have a small Swivel!


http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ghlight=swivel

# 1 Thanks Yoda.

This may have been covered, but how long is the flat left wrist held for in the stroke, and or the bent right wrist? Obviously beyond impact, but to the end of the follow through (or can it start to collapse then), or some time after follow through, or never? If held to at least the end of the follow through, is this why you need a pronounced swivel?

Also, is the finish part of the stroke (in terms of the arms etc) a mirror image of the backswing - ie bent left wrist, flat right wrist, or is it, as I saw stated elsewhere (by Yoda on the other Golfing Machine forum I think) a reassembly of the flying wedges with straight left wrist and bent right wrist (that feels super weird to me at the end of my swing!!!!)

Sorry for all the questions, but this one is bugging me a bit!

ChrisNZ



ChrisNZ,

The Left Wrist remains Flat through Impact, through the end of theFollow-Through (Both Arms Straight / 8-11) through the Flat andSwiveling-Back-On Plane Flat Left Wrist -- I know that is an "extra"Flat but I can't help myself and neither could Homer! -- until the Club flashesaround the Hands. [The Right Wrist loses its Bend as the Left Wrist completesits Hinge Action and Swivels back onto the Plane.] Then, and only then, doesthe Flat Left Wrist Bend -- as the Right Wrist Flattens against the Plane --and that Left Wrist Bend quickly returns to Flat as the really good playersrestore their Finish alignments.

The Finish is a mirror image only with Pure Swingers using the Standard LeftWrist Action (10-18-A). Here the Left Wrist is actually turned On Planein the Backstroke and Swiveled from Release into Impact on theDownstroke.

With Hitters, the Swivel from the Follow-Through into the Finish is the same aswith Swingers. However, since they use Single Wrist Action (10-18-C-2), theirBackstrokes and Downstrokes (especially from Release) will be markedlydifferent.

Also, Swingers utilizing Single Wrist Action Variation 10-18-C-1 (HorizontalHinge Motion to the On Plane Top) will not have the Swivel from Release intoImpact of the "Pure" Swinger. Instead, they will feel the long, slowSwivel of the Horizontal Hinge Motion from the Top to the Finish per 2-G.


Without a FLW and a proper Swivel, we are all just screwing around with less effective, incomplete stuff. Is anyone here really interested in having a 10 hcp.? Why bother with the game if we can't have zero to +2 hcp, when it is so do-able? As we know, we can completely reverse engineer a great ( I mean superbly effective) swing by concentrating only on "educated hands." That's what the world calls a professional touring pro. But those "feels" are damn difficult to standardize and as Lynn and HK have pointed out, proceed forth from certain mechanics.

It is just as easy to learn effective mechanics. We are fortunate to know highly effective mechanics.



http://lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showt...ghlight=swivel (everything!)


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Without a FLW and a proper Swivel, we are all just screwing around with less effective, incomplete stuff. Is anyone here really interested in having a 10 hcp.? Why bother with the game if we can't have zero to +2 hcp, when it is so do-able? As we know, we can completely reverse engineer a great ( I mean superbly effective) swing by concentrating only on "educated hands." That's what the world calls a professional touring pro. But those "feels" are damn difficult to standardize and as Lynn and HK have pointed out, proceed forth from certain mechanics.

It is just as easy to learn effective mechanics. We are fortunate to know highly effective mechanics.

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enjoying the posts fella and the links leading to great previous threads.

With you on the hcp thing, when i was a 7/8 hcp i argued with them (it wasn't popular) that most in that bracket were swinging almost completely on a wing & a prayer - i know i was, but the fog is clearing now i think

ps the UK is doing a good impression of winter at the moment - minus 20 C overnight in places & snow & frost bound courses
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enjoying the posts fella and the links leading to great previous threads.

With you on the hcp thing, when i was a 7/8 hcp i argued with them (it wasn't popular) that most in that bracket were swinging almost completely on a wing & a prayer - i know i was, but the fog is clearing now i think

ps the UK is doing a good impression of winter at the moment - minus 20 C overnight in places & snow & frost bound courses

To me, the "search" fucntions and insightful commentary from "well-trained" LBG folks make this site tremendous. I would rate myself as "slightly aware" of TGM issues which is why I rely on the search function heavily!

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# 1 Thanks Yoda.

This may have been covered, but how long is the flat left wrist held for in the stroke, and or the bent right wrist? Obviously beyond impact, but to the end of the follow through (or can it start to collapse then), or some time after follow through, or never? If held to at least the end of the follow through, is this why you need a pronounced swivel?

Also, is the finish part of the stroke (in terms of the arms etc) a mirror image of the backswing - ie bent left wrist, flat right wrist, or is it, as I saw stated elsewhere (by Yoda on the other Golfing Machine forum I think) a reassembly of the flying wedges with straight left wrist and bent right wrist (that feels super weird to me at the end of my swing!!!!)

Sorry for all the questions, but this one is bugging me a bit!




My thought on this is that your wedges (FLW/BBRW) in a proper swing (with a good Finishing Swivel) remain intact until you remember to take them apart after the swing. For me, with all my weight (just about) on my left foot and knee bent, the very minute I lift my left shoulder is the minute my right thumb arrives at my left ear! SETUP/ ROLL Prep! (Are Your Prepared to roll on that line?)

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Feelings vs. Mechanics

One of the problems of a bio-mechanically sound theory of a golf swing, for me, is that every new reduction in "Compensations" unleashes a new set of feelings which are unknowns in terms of effectiveness.

Daryl gave me a suggestion a while back about a drill in which I set my right foot back to "feel" my back shoulder moving Down-Plane, effectively. It felt great and I shot an 83 or something being in a perfectly closed stance. I had no concept of Level Wrists or Swiveling. I just Hit Down on the ball.

So, I'm aware of that feeling. I'm also still in the glow of the Forward Swivel which feels great. I'm also loving being on my left side more as a power amplifier for my Swing (thanks Mr. Trolio). So, my temptation is to combine the right shoulder drive Down-Plane (Elbow Plane) which I know works with everything else, but then I loose the sensation of the Finishing Swivel which just seems so simple and powerful! In short, everything is starting to feel like 4 Barrel Hitting. Sometimes, I see dead Swingers and Hitters and I'm surrounded by Switters! Man, the desire to mix Components might drag everyone to have 10 or 12 Barrels!

Don't even mention how simple and powerful an almost zero shift TSP feels. What if I do just the Elbow Plane? That Hogan Pivot is so far over on my left side, I feel as if I can just fire my elbow straight down tracing the Plane and SMACK! Now if the snow just holds off for awhile, I have more smacking to do!

LBG should start 3 television channels: Look at Swinging, Look at Hitting, and Look at Switting.



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More attention to the Plane!

For the Swinger, there is a Up-Plane Swivel where the FLW Swivels flat on the face of the Plane. Coming Down-Plane with a Tom Watson Sweep Release is fine as long as the FBRW is below the Plane with the right palm facing the Plane. Centrifugal Force will throw the # 3 PP on Plane as the right arm sweeps Down and past the left leg to both arms straight and to the Finishing Swivel. I am not sure if this is Swinging or Switting but it is pretty damn effective.

Hogan, lining up with the ball inside his left heel, and being so far left before starting his Sweep down or Snap Release must've felt he was hitting the ball on a line extending at 90 degrees from his Target Line. he must've hit the inside quadrant of his ball 95 % of the time! Did Davis Love III do this, too? More research.

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Inside aft quadrant equals a push or a hook or a draw.

Hogan hated the hook like a plague. He fought it for years. He did everything he could to avoid it. And eventually he brought it under control. Weak grip, cupped Left Wrist at the top. Anti hook ingredients. His bread and butter trajectory was a fade.

Many of those who tried to copy Hogans pattern ended up as slicers because they didn't all the other parts right - whatever they might be.
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Inside aft quadrant equals a push or a hook or a draw.

Hogan hated the hook like a plague. He fought it for years. He did everything he could to avoid it. And eventually he brought it under control. Weak grip, cupped Left Wrist at the top. Anti hook ingredients. His bread and butter trajectory was a fade.

Many of those who tried to copy Hogans pattern ended up as slicers because they didn't all the other parts right - whatever they might be.
So, I'd better really employ the Horizontal Hinge! Thanks Bernt! Wait a minute. Is it possible that the steepness of his approach to the ball simply created an Angle Hinge regardless of his grip? Hmmm.


Will keep everyone posted!


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