When you are rolling as hard as you want through impact, you can't bend the left wrist and you can't steer.
Is this right?
Hey Jerry
Kinda sorta. It can feel that way to some folks but on its own your statement is not quite correct.
It is possible to over Roll , to Swivel through Impact. It is possible to Roll like all heck and bend the left wrist via Throwaway etc. Rolling alone wont guarantee a Flat Left wrist but not Rolling at all can break the left wrist down. So Rolling is key. Let me explain.
There's three kinds of Steering:
-holding the Clubface square to the Target Line
-holding the Clubhead on the Target Line.......covering the Target Line as opposed to Tracing the Plane Line with its accompanying Visual Equivalent the Arc or Angle of Approach.
-holding the Clubhead on a level or upward path. Not hitting down in other words. "Scooping" as its known commonly.
Compare these three forms of Steering with 2-C-0 and drawing 2-C-1 The ideal application. They are near opposites! This is the heart of the book's main message to my mind. As an aside, I heard Johnny Miller talking about Dustin Johnson's swing at the Open and describing a "5 inch section where the clubface remains square to the target". I think Homer might have rolled over in his grave after that one. That would be type one Steering.
The last two listed forms of Steering disrupt the clubhead's circular orbit, (geometry of the circle) and ruin the shot. The first one, the one to which you allude deals with the face angle and makes total compression impossible as the ball slides off the face as it would for a lob shot, Vertical Hinging. A great thing when you need it but not something you want for total compression.
The three forms of Steering are common logic, "seems as if" it should work notions , that dont work at all given that golf is a side on game played with hook faced instruments. Golf and pool are not alike in terms of the geometry of impact. No Sir.
But, as Yoda so eloquently states in his video about the Swivel, Rolling the Flat Left Wrist "will take you immediately to the next level." Homer put unusual emphasis on the preparation to Roll in 12-3-0. Section 6-The Top. pt 22. DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP. So Rolling is a key, no doubt.
In my lessons with Yoda , he introduced me to what I consider to be a near Imperative, Both Arms Straight, Follow Through via a lot of work in Basic and Acquired. But then for Total Motion you need to make it all the way to Finish without bypassing Both Arms Straight .........something that is easy to skip. (This may have beens Moe's secret by the way, for there was a man that passed through Both ARms Straight on his way to Finish in Total Motion). The way out of Follow Through, is the Finish Swivel, the Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist back onto the Inclined Plane.
So, I believe, first you learn to execute Impact as a Hinge Action, Horizontal Hinging ideally for total compression, with a clubface that is square at Separation only (1-L-17). Then you learn to get to Both Arms Straight , which means you have completed the circular orbit (1-L-9 and 2-C-0) and Thrusted all the way Down (1-L-15) etc. Then you learn how to get out of Follow Through by Rolling a Finish Swivel. But its not just any old amount of Rolling its precisely Aligned Rolling that maintains the clubshafts alignment to the plane line. (1-L-6). All of which may remind you of 12-5-0 which would not be a coincidence.
You cant just roll the heck out of it and expect other things to fall into place. But for the golfer who has done some work in 12-5-0 The Basic Motion Curriculum it may seem like that. But he has executed Impact as a Hinge Action and maintained his Impact Hands and their associated Flying Wedge Alignments all the way to Both Arms Straight and satisfied the 2-C-0 impact geometry requirements and and and.
Kinda sorta. It can feel that way to some folks but on its own your statement is not quite correct.
It is possible to over Roll , to Swivel through Impact. It is possible to Roll like all heck and bend the left wrist via Throwaway etc. Rolling alone wont guarantee a Flat Left wrist but not Rolling at all can break the left wrist down. So Rolling is key. Let me explain.
There's three kinds of Steering:
-holding the Clubface square to the Target Line
-holding the Clubhead on the Target Line.......covering the Target Line as opposed to Tracing the Plane Line with its accompanying Visual Equivalent the Arc or Angle of Approach.
-holding the Clubhead on a level or upward path. Not hitting down in other words. "Scooping" as its known commonly.
Compare these three forms of Steering with 2-C-0 and drawing 2-C-1 The ideal application. They are near opposites! This is the heart of the book's main message to my mind. As an aside, I heard Johnny Miller talking about Dustin Johnson's swing at the Open and describing a "5 inch section where the clubface remains square to the target". I think Homer might have rolled over in his grave after that one. That would be type one Steering.
The last two listed forms of Steering disrupt the clubhead's circular orbit, (geometry of the circle) and ruin the shot. The first one, the one to which you allude deals with the face angle and makes total compression impossible as the ball slides off the face as it would for a lob shot, Vertical Hinging. A great thing when you need it but not something you want for total compression.
The three forms of Steering are common logic, "seems as if" it should work notions , that dont work at all given that golf is a side on game played with hook faced instruments. Golf and pool are not alike in terms of the geometry of impact. No Sir.
But, as Yoda so eloquently states in his video about the Swivel, Rolling the Flat Left Wrist "will take you immediately to the next level." Homer put unusual emphasis on the preparation to Roll in 12-3-0. Section 6-The Top. pt 22. DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP. So Rolling is a key, no doubt.
In my lessons with Yoda , he introduced me to what I consider to be a near Imperative, Both Arms Straight, Follow Through via a lot of work in Basic and Acquired. But then for Total Motion you need to make it all the way to Finish without bypassing Both Arms Straight .........something that is easy to skip. (This may have beens Moe's secret by the way, for there was a man that passed through Both ARms Straight on his way to Finish in Total Motion). The way out of Follow Through, is the Finish Swivel, the Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist back onto the Inclined Plane.
So, I believe, first you learn to execute Impact as a Hinge Action, Horizontal Hinging ideally for total compression, with a clubface that is square at Separation only (1-L-17). Then you learn to get to Both Arms Straight , which means you have completed the circular orbit (1-L-9 and 2-C-0) and Thrusted all the way Down (1-L-15) etc. Then you learn how to get out of Follow Through by Rolling a Finish Swivel. But its not just any old amount of Rolling its precisely Aligned Rolling that maintains the clubshafts alignment to the plane line. (1-L-6). All of which may remind you of 12-5-0 which would not be a coincidence.
You cant just roll the heck out of it and expect other things to fall into place. But for the golfer who has done some work in 12-5-0 The Basic Motion Curriculum it may seem like that. But he has executed Impact as a Hinge Action and maintained his Impact Hands and their associated Flying Wedge Alignments all the way to Both Arms Straight and satisfied the 2-C-0 impact geometry requirements and and and.
wow-thank you very much, a lot of good information
But when you put the whole thing together for the Swinger it'll feel like the Golfers flail from Top to Finish. The feeling of uncocking or hammering on plane and then rolling the #3 Angle. All done with proper Rhythm which mandates a flat left wrist. Lose the Flat left wrist and lose Rhythm. Try hitting some left arm only pitches to feel it. You'll notice its hard to get the left arm up to Top while your at it.............one reason Homer didnt like a left arm pick up. You can take it up with two arms attached and then drop the right off the club at Top if you want to keep the RFT. Thats what I do. Its like a pull back and a pull down then. Its good left arm flail training. I have a feeling that Homer did a lot of this sort of thing. Right arm only too. Seve says he did when he was young, maybe one reason why he had an RFT as well.
Roll that flat left wrist. How much? I asked Yoda once. "This much" was his firm reply as he demonstrated 1-L-6. It was an epiphany for me , a poor golfer who had gone back and forth between too much and too little Turn and Roll for years.
Alignment Golf , its without parallel. (A little play on words there, sorry)
Roll that flat left wrist. How much? I asked Yoda once. "This much" was his firm reply as he demonstrated 1-L-6. It was an epiphany for me , a poor golfer who had gone back and forth between too much and too little Turn and Roll for years.
Alignment Golf , its without parallel. (A little play on words there, sorry)
Please quantify "This much" because I see 1-L-6 going from horizon to horizon.
Could the Johny Miller comment ment the motion had arrived at "pure" horizontal hinge 5" before impact?
Please quantify "This much" because I see 1-L-6 going from horizon to horizon.
Could the Johny Miller comment ment the motion had arrived at "pure" horizontal hinge 5" before impact?
The Bear
I see it from horizon to horizon too , like a perspective drawing.
In regard to "this much".......it was my first lesson with Yoda. I had gone back and forth for years on turning or not turning my left forearm in Startup. I had no appreciation for Alignments they were "moves" that sometimes worked but often didnt. The "this much" Yoda showed me at that time was solely based on 1-L-6, keeping one end of the club or the other pointed at the base line, plane line. It was a revelation to me. Later I would learn of the different Hinge Actions and how any of the Three Zones can effect Horizontal Hinging .......it was "in the beginning" so to speak.
As for Johnny Millers remark, I dont think so Bear. I heard Johnny's comment about the "five inches" during the Sunday broadcast of the final round of the US Open. It was a sort of general statement about the swing, I think while he was critiquing Dustins swing. I heard it once , live , Id like to re hear to make sure, but my take at the time was that he was prescribing a "five inch" section of the clubfaces travel during impact where it should stay pointed straight at the hole. Which would be Steering. Type one Steering. Which Homer would say would produce a cut shot.
Im with Homer on that one. You can easily see it in little chip shots with Vertical Hinging after all. Let alone a driver.
can you expound more on this statement, not sure I have heard this before?
-holding the Clubhead on the Target Line.......covering the Target Line as opposed to Tracing the Plane Line with its accompanying Visual Equivalent the Arc or Angle of Approach.
can you expound more on this statement, not sure I have heard this before?
-holding the Clubhead on the Target Line.......covering the Target Line as opposed to Tracing the Plane Line with its accompanying Visual Equivalent the Arc or Angle of Approach.
Take a look at 3-F-7-A Steering the Number one malfunction.
And then compare it to the impact geometry of 2-C-1 #2A and #2B both termed the IDEAL APPLICATION. Total compression.
They are in stark contrast. This is the heart and soul of Homers message to my mind. Its all a product of using a club with lie angle and hooked face.
In regard to Type two Steering there is a useful "visual equivalent" to the ideal path of the clubhead. An arc or line on the ground which you can cover visually with the clubhead to great effect, instead of covering the Target line. For this see 2-J-3 the Arc of Approach. Its quite a confusing section but remember that since it is a "visual" these Arcs, Angles or Lines are inscribed on the ground from the point of view of the golfer eyes only.
Simply put, Tracing is to point your #3 pp at the Straight Line Base Line but from a parallax point of view, Covering is to visually cover a line with your clubhead. They are not the same thing. But there is a visual equivalent , an Arc or Angle of Approach which you can Cover to achieve the same clubhead path as if you were Tracing. The Tracing of Straight Line Plane Line has a Visual Equivalent in an Arc a curved line which from your eyes perspective you can cover with the clubhead path.
Its so hard to talk about in words. We need animations. Some day.
Kinda sorta. It can feel that way to some folks but on its own your statement is not quite correct.
It is possible to over Roll , to Swivel through Impact. It is possible to Roll like all heck and bend the left wrist via Throwaway etc. Rolling alone wont guarantee a Flat Left wrist but not Rolling at all can break the left wrist down. So Rolling is key. Let me explain.
There's three kinds of Steering:
-holding the Clubface square to the Target Line
-holding the Clubhead on the Target Line.......covering the Target Line as opposed to Tracing the Plane Line with its accompanying Visual Equivalent the Arc or Angle of Approach.
-holding the Clubhead on a level or upward path. Not hitting down in other words. "Scooping" as its known commonly.
Compare these three forms of Steering with 2-C-0 and drawing 2-C-1 The ideal application. They are near opposites! This is the heart of the book's main message to my mind. As an aside, I heard Johnny Miller talking about Dustin Johnson's swing at the Open and describing a "5 inch section where the clubface remains square to the target". I think Homer might have rolled over in his grave after that one. That would be type one Steering.
The last two listed forms of Steering disrupt the clubhead's circular orbit, (geometry of the circle) and ruin the shot. The first one, the one to which you allude deals with the face angle and makes total compression impossible as the ball slides off the face as it would for a lob shot, Vertical Hinging. A great thing when you need it but not something you want for total compression.
The three forms of Steering are common logic, "seems as if" it should work notions , that dont work at all given that golf is a side on game played with hook faced instruments. Golf and pool are not alike in terms of the geometry of impact. No Sir.
But, as Yoda so eloquently states in his video about the Swivel, Rolling the Flat Left Wrist "will take you immediately to the next level." Homer put unusual emphasis on the preparation to Roll in 12-3-0. Section 6-The Top. pt 22. DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP. So Rolling is a key, no doubt.
In my lessons with Yoda , he introduced me to what I consider to be a near Imperative, Both Arms Straight, Follow Through via a lot of work in Basic and Acquired. But then for Total Motion you need to make it all the way to Finish without bypassing Both Arms Straight .........something that is easy to skip. (This may have beens Moe's secret by the way, for there was a man that passed through Both ARms Straight on his way to Finish in Total Motion). The way out of Follow Through, is the Finish Swivel, the Rolling of the Flat Left Wrist back onto the Inclined Plane.
So, I believe, first you learn to execute Impact as a Hinge Action, Horizontal Hinging ideally for total compression, with a clubface that is square at Separation only (1-L-17). Then you learn to get to Both Arms Straight , which means you have completed the circular orbit (1-L-9 and 2-C-0) and Thrusted all the way Down (1-L-15) etc. Then you learn how to get out of Follow Through by Rolling a Finish Swivel. But its not just any old amount of Rolling its precisely Aligned Rolling that maintains the clubshafts alignment to the plane line. (1-L-6). All of which may remind you of 12-5-0 which would not be a coincidence.
You cant just roll the heck out of it and expect other things to fall into place. But for the golfer who has done some work in 12-5-0 The Basic Motion Curriculum it may seem like that. But he has executed Impact as a Hinge Action and maintained his Impact Hands and their associated Flying Wedge Alignments all the way to Both Arms Straight and satisfied the 2-C-0 impact geometry requirements and and and.
Just now getting here. Great stuff, James. Thanks!
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