left shoulder?

[HungryBear]

When and how does the left shoulder slow down during the forward swing?

I think it slows down at the end of the follow through. Thats what keeps the shaft from breaking your right scapula as it comes down and across your back. 2-H. the left shoulder is helpless. I have the most trouble with my shoulders when I let my left shoulder do anything on its own

The Bear

[Daryl]

Vapid post. This is a little off topic, but the Left Shoulder needs a push from the Right Shoulder.

I've seen many swings where the Left Shoulder hardly moves during the Downstroke. Players that raise their Left Shoulders during the Backstroke may have the right shoulder travel Down-plane during the Downstroke but without much consequence.

Without Left Shoulder Alignment, the Right Shoulder will easily go around/under the Left Shoulder. A disruptively Flat shoulder Turn will result when the Left Shoulder travels across and/or up during the Backstroke. It should go down, well under your chin.

10-13-B FLAT This is a relatively flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn which places the Shoulder “On Plane” for any Plane Angle with a flatter angle than the Rotated Shoulder Angle.

So, you don't attempt to make a "Flat" Backstroke Shoulder Turn; it's effect. Anyone is physically capable, without stress, to perform a perfect Flat or Rotated Shoulder Turn. If you can't, it's know-how.




Back to the Topic:

Consider this: If the Shoulders are the Last part of the Pivot, then they are the last part of the pivot to slow down.

[gmbtempe]

Vapid post. This is a little off topic, but the Left Shoulder needs a push from the Right Shoulder.

I've seen many swings where the Left Shoulder hardly moves during the Downstroke. Players that raise their Left Shoulders during the Backstroke may have the right shoulder travel Down-plane during the Downstroke but without much consequence.

Without Left Shoulder Alignment, the Right Shoulder will easily go around/under the Left Shoulder. A disruptively Flat shoulder Turn will result when the Left Shoulder travels across and/or up during the Backstroke. It should go down, well under your chin.



So, you don't attempt to make a "Flat" Backstroke Shoulder Turn; it's effect. Anyone is physically capable, without stress, to perform a perfect Flat or Rotated Shoulder Turn. If you can't, it's know-how.




Back to the Topic:

Consider this: If the Shoulders are the Last part of the Pivot, then they are the last part of the pivot to slow down.

I would say though if you dont have good flexibility then the rotated shoulder turn can feel a little uncomfortable.....but dont most people fall between flat and rotated?

[innercityteacher]

Vapid post. This is a little off topic, but the Left Shoulder needs a push from the Right Shoulder.

I've seen many swings where the Left Shoulder hardly moves during the Downstroke. Players that raise their Left Shoulders during the Backstroke may have the right shoulder travel Down-plane during the Downstroke but without much consequence.

Without Left Shoulder Alignment, the Right Shoulder will easily go around/under the Left Shoulder. A disruptively Flat shoulder Turn will result when the Left Shoulder travels across and/or up during the Backstroke. It should go down, well under your chin.



So, you don't attempt to make a "Flat" Backstroke Shoulder Turn; it's effect. Anyone is physically capable, without stress, to perform a perfect Flat or Rotated Shoulder Turn. If you can't, it's know-how.




Back to the Topic:

Consider this: If the Shoulders are the Last part of the Pivot, then they are the last part of the pivot to slow down.

So, I have made lots of mistakes trying to stay on plane, and I will (most likely) in the future. One of my persistent mistakes was wanting to drive the heck out of the right shoulder down plane. I was going OTT (over the top) bigtime.

Daryl and everyone else in the LBG universe patiently informed my gimpy machine that I had to Pivot first to get the hips out of the way so the back shoulder comes down on plane, not around it.

I have done a lot of this (using the "Holies and Polies" free video) and the OTT stuff has stopped. After awhile, about 20 balls on the range, lifting the left shoulder while the RFT is finishing up plane feels like Pivoting slowly on my front gimpy leg. Feeling the # 4 pp has gotten to be a great comfort. It is the bio-mechanical way of giving my back shoulder a massive sedative. It means my shot is going pretty straight or pretty much where I want it to. I believe the left shoulder always moves up, slowly.

Since bio-mechanical possibilities are really what TGM is all about, could we get the same good on plane effect by driving the right knee forward or pushing off on the inside back foot? If all things are equal (and they really are not very often), would this not explain the various great golfers simply saying the same bio-mechanically effective things with "different accents?"
(I'm referring to truly effective golfers with multiple years of winning and different "feels" as to their effectiveness.)

Patrick (soon to be driving in Minneeeesooooota)

[O.B.Left]

When and how does the left shoulder slow down during the forward swing?

The Period of Shoulder Acceleration , Startdown, ends with the period of ......Hand Acceleration. 4, 1, 2, 3. Its a sequential firing, like a rocket booster or whatever.

There is some disagreement around this point however amongst the different tribes of Homer followers. Homer and Lynn have it right to my mind. The inside swings the outside.

The shoulders slow down after they accelerate .....

[Daryl]

The Period of Shoulder Acceleration , Startdown, ends with the period of ......Hand Acceleration. 4, 1, 2, 3. Its a sequential firing, like a rocket booster or whatever.

There is some disagreement around this point however amongst the different tribes of Homer followers. Homer and Lynn have it right to my mind. The inside swings the outside.

The shoulders slow down after they accelerate .....

OK, Picky, but Fine....if you want to be technical about it. Then, they slow down because the Hands Accelerate. CHOAM. The Right Arm begins to Extend. The Left Arm is Blasted off the Chest.