I have been reading (and watching) about this topic, but I still have no grasp of why it is important - and in what way.
I think it has something with the right forearm, the bent right wrist and the flat left wrist to do - but what? Is the important thing to have the right forearm and the clubshaft on line at address and the left forearm and the clubschaft on line at impact - but so what? Doesn't the right arm begin to straighten in the downswing - what happens to the flying wedge then - does it disapear or change shape and what are the consequences? Why is this flying wedge business so important? Is it the angles and/or the plane this is about?
BTW does this have anything to do with the L position between the clubshaft and the left arm in the backswing? I just don't get it. It's the wedges that is the problem - what to do with them in what fashion? The flying aspect is probably just the movement/motion of the swing?
Do leverage and lag have anything with this to do?
How would you explain this to a 10 year old and if that's too difficult make it a 7 year old.
If you haven't yet and can at all afford it, buy the Alignment Golf DVD's. They explain all. I got mine yesterday and they have explained so much (plus give the drills that you need to put it into play!).
I have it. And I have looked at all the free videos, including Dowels & Wedges, but it doesn't click for me. Therefore I was hoping for a simplified version, suitable for a child.
I don't know if this will help because oversimplifying can lead to misunderstanding. The Left Arm Wedge and the Right Forearm Wedge serve critical but different functions. Using a 10-2-B Grip, they become aligned in a manner that each can maintain its own identity while attached/supporting the other.
Think of an Umbrella (not the best example). The one arm supports the fabric while attached to another arm that pushes it into position. Each arm serves a different function and are connected in a specific way. Each arm needs the other to perform its own function. Like I said, bad example.
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FLYING WEDGES Example – multiple sails on a sail boat. Mechanical – Push-Pull rams on hydraulic excavators mounted at 90 degrees to each other to position and hold the main beam. Golf – Maintaining the constant simultaneous In-Line relationship of the Clubshaft with the Left Arm and the Right Forearm positioned at ninety degrees to each other along the Line of the Left Wristcock and the line of the Right Wrist Bend.
The left wrist is flat at all times (geometrically flat - you can use a strong grip) The left wrist is only allowed to cock and uncock. When you hold the club out in front of you it is a strictly vertical up and down motion in the wrist. That's all you should allow your left wrist to do before both arms stright towards the finish.
The right wrist is frozen*, bent and level until both arms straight. When you take the club back you shall enable the left wrist cock by bending the right elbow. You can get the left wrist fully cocked and uncocked while maintaining a frozen right wrist. The frozen right wrist will help you keep the rhythm.
The flying wedges takes away a lot of motional freedom that can only ruin a good golf stroke.
There are two planes involved here. The plane of the left flying wedge - the angle between the left arm and the club. That plane is close to vertical at address, but it rotates into the swing plane as you progress on your back swing and rotates back to vertical towards impact.
The other plane is the plane of the right flying wedge. Ideally* it is 90 degree to the left flying wedge and in the swing plane at address and impact. Which meeans thay your right forearm is on the inclined plane (the swing plane) and should look as an extension of the clubshaft at address from down the line.
*I am one of those who don't do this 100% from address because I can't seem to produce a good swing that way. I need to have the hands somewhat lower. I need some slack at address because I impact the ball with more shoulder turn than I can produce at address. Nevertheless my right forearm is on plane at impact. So instead of a frozen left wrist I use a "quiet" left wrist. It is somewhere between cocked and level at address, but it finds its level position half way up in the back swing and stays there until the ball is gone.
Yoda and O.B. Left has a no compromize attitude towards the frozen right wrist and for good reasons. If you can make it work for you, you will get a simpler stroke. But if you need lower hands at address to save your swing dynamics it may be comforting to know that about 95% of the best golfers on the planet seems to do the same. The lighter version of the wedges means that you should still only allow your left wrist to cock and uncock, that there should be very little cocking and uncocking (close to nil) in the right wrist and that there should be no straigtening of the left wrist before impact. You can increase the left wrist bend in the back stroke, but only if you can keep it until past impact.
Whether you go for the hard core, "frozen" right wrist version or the lighter "quiet" right wrist version it should help you develop a better rhythm in the stroke. The flying wedges will impose a lot of restrictions on the rest of the golf stroke, and that is probably the best part of it: They will prevent you from doing a lot of wrongs.
I'm a beginner in the TGM game so take that with a grain of salt but what striked me with the flying wedges concept is how much this defines the plane and make a solid resilient structure. The right arm flying wedge provides a strong support for the left arm flying wedge, similar to the waiter-holding-a-tray image but not only at top, during most of the backswing and downswing. It also seems to support the shaft during the impact interval (optimize club head speed at separation?) and since the right forearm is on-plane, it supports a forward, downward and outward impact. I imagine the right forearm as a support rod for the inclined plane, maybe even defining the plane, and freeing the left side to do its business.. and only that.
If we had to keep the club on plane using only the left arm, it may build tension in the left forearm and might prevent a good release of acc #3. This is just an hypothesis.
The left wrist is flat at all times (geometrically flat - you can use a strong grip) The left wrist is only allowed to cock and uncock. When you hold the club out in front of you it is a strictly vertical up and down motion in the wrist. That's all you should allow your left wrist to do before both arms stright towards the finish.
The right wrist is frozen*, bent and level until both arms straight. When you take the club back you shall enable the left wrist cock by bending the right elbow. You can get the left wrist fully cocked and uncocked while maintaining a frozen right wrist. The frozen right wrist will help you keep the rhythm.
The flying wedges takes away a lot of motional freedom that can only ruin a good golf stroke.
There are two planes involved here. The plane of the left flying wedge - the angle between the left arm and the club. That plane is close to vertical at address, but it rotates into the swing plane as you progress on your back swing and rotates back to vertical towards impact.
The other plane is the plane of the right flying wedge. Ideally* it is 90 degree to the left flying wedge and in the swing plane at address and impact. Which meeans thay your right forearm is on the inclined plane (the swing plane) and should look as an extension of the clubshaft at address from down the line.
*I am one of those who don't do this 100% from address because I can't seem to produce a good swing that way. I need to have the hands somewhat lower. I need some slack at address because I impact the ball with more shoulder turn than I can produce at address. Nevertheless my right forearm is on plane at impact. So instead of a frozen left wrist I use a "quiet" left wrist. It is somewhere between cocked and level at address, but it finds its level position half way up in the back swing and stays there until the ball is gone.
Yoda and O.B. Left has a no compromize attitude towards the frozen right wrist and for good reasons. If you can make it work for you, you will get a simpler stroke. But if you need lower hands at address to save your swing dynamics it may be comforting to know that about 95% of the best golfers on the planet seems to do the same. The lighter version of the wedges means that you should still only allow your left wrist to cock and uncock, that there should be very little cocking and uncocking (close to nil) in the right wrist and that there should be no straigtening of the left wrist before impact. You can increase the left wrist bend in the back stroke, but only if you can keep it until past impact.
Whether you go for the hard core, "frozen" right wrist version or the lighter "quiet" right wrist version it should help you develop a better rhythm in the stroke. The flying wedges will impose a lot of restrictions on the rest of the golf stroke, and that is probably the best part of it: They will prevent you from doing a lot of wrongs.
Tusen takk.
Thank for pointing out these important things that I can relate to. I think I know how the wrists are supposed to work and what angles to achieve with the club. If that is enough, maybe I can forget the whole wedge idea, because that concept refuses to enter into my brain.
The left wrist is flat at all times (geometrically flat - you can use a strong grip) The left wrist is only allowed to cock and uncock. When you hold the club out in front of you it is a strictly vertical up and down motion in the wrist. That's all you should allow your left wrist to do before both arms stright towards the finish.
The right wrist is frozen*, bent and level until both arms straight. When you take the club back you shall enable the left wrist cock by bending the right elbow. You can get the left wrist fully cocked and uncocked while maintaining a frozen right wrist. The frozen right wrist will help you keep the rhythm.
The flying wedges takes away a lot of motional freedom that can only ruin a good golf stroke.
There are two planes involved here. The plane of the left flying wedge - the angle between the left arm and the club. That plane is close to vertical at address, but it rotates into the swing plane as you progress on your back swing and rotates back to vertical towards impact.
The other plane is the plane of the right flying wedge. Ideally* it is 90 degree to the left flying wedge and in the swing plane at address and impact. Which meeans thay your right forearm is on the inclined plane (the swing plane) and should look as an extension of the clubshaft at address from down the line.
*I am one of those who don't do this 100% from address because I can't seem to produce a good swing that way. I need to have the hands somewhat lower. I need some slack at address because I impact the ball with more shoulder turn than I can produce at address. Nevertheless my right forearm is on plane at impact. So instead of a frozen left wrist I use a "quiet" left wrist. It is somewhere between cocked and level at address, but it finds its level position half way up in the back swing and stays there until the ball is gone.
Yoda and O.B. Left has a no compromize attitude towards the frozen right wrist and for good reasons. If you can make it work for you, you will get a simpler stroke. But if you need lower hands at address to save your swing dynamics it may be comforting to know that about 95% of the best golfers on the planet seems to do the same. The lighter version of the wedges means that you should still only allow your left wrist to cock and uncock, that there should be very little cocking and uncocking (close to nil) in the right wrist and that there should be no straigtening of the left wrist before impact. You can increase the left wrist bend in the back stroke, but only if you can keep it until past impact.
Whether you go for the hard core, "frozen" right wrist version or the lighter "quiet" right wrist version it should help you develop a better rhythm in the stroke. The flying wedges will impose a lot of restrictions on the rest of the golf stroke, and that is probably the best part of it: They will prevent you from doing a lot of wrongs.
Originally Posted by Daryl
I don't know if this will help because oversimplifying can lead to misunderstanding. The Left Arm Wedge and the Right Forearm Wedge serve critical but different functions. Using a 10-2-B Grip, they become aligned in a manner that each can maintain its own identity while attached/supporting the other.
Think of an Umbrella (not the best example). The one arm supports the fabric while attached to another arm that pushes it into position. Each arm serves a different function and are connected in a specific way. Each arm needs the other to perform its own function. Like I said, bad example.
It's probably a good example if one already understands it. I think I know what the hands and wrist are supposed to do. And I am tempted to say like Yoda does - in another sequence - let the wrists and arms do what the wrists and hands do - and forget the whole wedge picture if it doesn't click for me. But maybe it will - one day. Thanks anyway.
I'm a beginner in the TGM game so take that with a grain of salt but what striked me with the flying wedges concept is how much this defines the plane and make a solid resilient structure. The right arm flying wedge provides a strong support for the left arm flying wedge, similar to the waiter-holding-a-tray image but not only at top, during most of the backswing and downswing. It also seems to support the shaft during the impact interval (optimize club head speed at separation?) and since the right forearm is on-plane, it supports a forward, downward and outward impact. I imagine the right forearm as a support rod for the inclined plane, maybe even defining the plane, and freeing the left side to do its business.. and only that.
If we had to keep the club on plane using only the left arm, it may build tension in the left forearm and might prevent a good release of acc #3. This is just an hypothesis.
You are probably on to something here - keep it up for your own sake - for the time being I'm uncapable of getting this into my head.
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