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Old 10-03-2010, 02:09 PM
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2-F-7-C Bobbing
Bobbing mentions the faulty movement of the back.
What is the faulty movement of the back?
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Old 10-03-2010, 02:20 PM
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Bobbing mentions the faulty movement of the back.
What is the faulty movement of the back?
On his Golf Channel video Yoda talks about the centred, stationary head may swivel, but must not sway or bob. So my understanding is that the back must not change its forward leaning spine position in the backstroke & downstroke in such a way that bobbing occurs.
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Old 10-03-2010, 02:56 PM
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I am curious why the bobbing of the head on the downswing is a big deal to playing high level exceptional golf. Watching most of the great players of all time on the down swing their head lowers as the body seems to compress into the ground. Tiger and Hogan did it considerably. You wont find many that dont drop it down to some degrees in the downswing.

backswing I agree that you want no bobbing.
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Old 10-03-2010, 02:58 PM
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I am curious why the bobbing of the head on the downswing is a big deal to playing high level exceptional golf. Watching most of the great players of all time on the down swing their head lowers as the body seems to compress into the ground. Tiger and Hogan did it considerably. You wont find many that dont drop it down to some degrees in the downswing.

backswing I agree that you want no bobbing.
I think its a big thing for us club players. We don't have the talent or the time to groove and learn the compensations that are needed. You have to remember El Tigre and Ben Hogan have spent hours upon hours on the practise tee hitting ball after ball.
We are trying to learn the uncompensated stroke with TGM and the less compensations you have the better your swing and your golf will be.
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Old 10-03-2010, 04:41 PM
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I am curious why the bobbing of the head on the downswing is a big deal to playing high level exceptional golf. Watching most of the great players of all time on the down swing their head lowers as the body seems to compress into the ground. Tiger and Hogan did it considerably. You wont find many that dont drop it down to some degrees in the downswing.

backswing I agree that you want no bobbing.


It could be that transitioning to the Elbow Plane from the Top of their Swings needs a very strong Downward Thrust, then Outward. Downward then Outward in a sequenced kind of way. Whereas, while Swinging on the TSP we need a Force (Right Shoulder) that's Downward on Plane; Down and Out Simultaneously.
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:32 PM
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I tend to agree with this, the bigger the shift the more of a drop, though even Phil compresses downward and he is on the TSP.

I guess the guy I think of with the least of a name player is Stricker....which makes me think it could be related to power.
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Old 10-05-2010, 10:36 AM
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Thanks you all for your coments. I was trying to help
a fellow gowing to Q School. He is concerned about his
head moving down on the downswing. I don't see it as a big
problem but the guy wants to be perfect.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:09 PM
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Heading in the right direction
Go to Impact Fix. Wherever your head is keep it there and return to your Adjusted Address.
Save the Bobbing for Apples .
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Thanks you all for your coments. I was trying to help
a fellow gowing to Q School. He is concerned about his
head moving down on the downswing. I don't see it as a big
problem but the guy wants to be perfect.
Donn
Don . . . check your buddy's neck/head at address . . . imagine he's got laser beams shooting out of his eyes . . . where would the laser shoot if it were coming straight out of his eye sockets? Good chance that he needs to tilt his head down. He could be making that move so he can see the ball.

The "adding waist bend" can be a geometric problem because it can be a disruption of the "radius" . . . if his head is lowering there are implications in the orbit of the club and some sort of compensation will manifest it self . . . raising up . . . bending left wrist . . . bending the left elbow . . . could be anything.

Look at Adam Scott's address . . . his teach has for sure told him to "keep his spine straight" . . . look at where his eyeball laser would be shooting at adress vs. four frames back from the last frame . . . clearly he has tilted his chin down . . . look at the bill of his cap in the sequence . . it moves down that telephone pole in the back. You can't hit what you can't see.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:56 AM
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Bucket, Thank a lot for the advice and pictures.
I will certainly follow up. Donn
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