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Old 10-04-2010, 06:48 PM
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Pressure Point Combinations
How many (and which ones) (of 15) combinations of Pressure Points have you tried out - and what were the effects? Which ones do you normally use? And why do you use them in this way?
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:32 PM
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I always use pp#2. The pressure in the three last fingers in the left hand is vital to me. And I alwayss use pp#1 and pp#3 to. PP#3 is a companion to pp#1 and also good error sensor. If PP#3 takes over the pressure from pp#1 I know I am in trouble. Most of the time I use pp#1 and pp#3 for driveloading in the late downstroke, but sometimes only for extencior action. I use these two for adding finesse in the short and long game.

I try to not use pp#4 much as a power souce as I don't beleve it has much power to offer and that it seems like trying to max it only ruins the synchronization of pivot and arms. PP#4 is mostly a sensor for me.
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:46 PM
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PP4 always essential. Even if it's not active, it is a monitor especially for alignment and ball position.
PP4 and PP2 I concentrate on when drag loading. I drag load my woods. If I'm playing well I try to add some drive unloading with PP1

For the irons I focus on PP4 and PP3. It's not a drag/drive loading motion. Rather I feel like I'm pushing/pulling the club.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:06 PM
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I've spent all my focus on 1 and 3. Once I start back in the dungeon due to snow, I will try to focus more on other combinations.
Thanks for the thought.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:14 PM
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4-2-3 all active, all dragging the Clubhead, all being Thrust by the Pivot.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:15 PM
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A tribute to pp#2
PS (pre script): Daryl probably uses pp#1 as well. But only for extencior action, right?

Pressure point combinations is similar and different than accumulators. Extencior action doesn't use Accumulator#1 but still uses the associated pressure points.

Proper pp#2 pressure at impact is IMO as fundamental as it gets.

If you want to keep things simple this is a very good key to focus on. It basically takes care of The Three Basic imperatives: It is the physical equivalent of TGM's geometrically flat left wrist. It IS a Clubhead Lag Pressure Point - and IMO the most significant by far. And if you control it and keep it throughout your stroke you will get a straight Plane Line. And it is also the essense of rhythm. The only thing it doesn't cover of the TGM fundamentals is a stationary head and balance.

A lot of people who come here to LBG and learn TGM seem to be very inspired by the hitting protocol and change their stroke pattern towards hitting. For me it was the other way around. I already had plenty of hit impulse in my stroke. My main problem was pp#2 pressure that varied from day to day and stroke to stroke. And the stroke was never better than my pp#2 pressure through impact. Through TGM I became much better to pull that rope through the ball and that has made a huge and lasting different to consistency.

The better I control pp#2 the better I strike the ball; putter or driver or anything inbetween.
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Old 10-29-2010, 07:47 AM
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PS (pre script): Daryl probably uses pp#1 as well. But only for extencior action, right?

Pressure point combinations is similar and different than accumulators. Extencior action doesn't use Accumulator#1 but still uses the associated pressure points.

Proper pp#2 pressure at impact is IMO as fundamental as it gets.

If you want to keep things simple this is a very good key to focus on. It basically takes care of The Three Basic imperatives: It is the physical equivalent of TGM's geometrically flat left wrist. It IS a Clubhead Lag Pressure Point - and IMO the most significant by far. And if you control it and keep it throughout your stroke you will get a straight Plane Line. And it is also the essense of rhythm. The only thing it doesn't cover of the TGM fundamentals is a stationary head and balance.

A lot of people who come here to LBG and learn TGM seem to be very inspired by the hitting protocol and change their stroke pattern towards hitting. For me it was the other way around. I already had plenty of hit impulse in my stroke. My main problem was pp#2 pressure that varied from day to day and stroke to stroke. And the stroke was never better than my pp#2 pressure through impact. Through TGM I became much better to pull that rope through the ball and that has made a huge and lasting different to consistency.

The better I control pp#2 the better I strike the ball; putter or driver or anything inbetween.
Great post BerntR!

This is what I really love about TGM and LBG. Right here in this thread. So many different ideas, so many ways to get er done, and all of them are correct.

Air, I'll bet you are learning so much this week in Cuscowilla, I can't wait to hear more!

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Old 10-29-2010, 09:30 AM
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Is it possible to 'use' the pressure points incorrectly?
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:36 AM
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Is it possible to 'use' the pressure points incorrectly?
Hmmmm, great questions John!

I will look forward to hearing the more advanced ideas from others....

My first thoughts:

1) PP #3. Used incorrectly by my students when their grip is out of alignment. PP #3 must be set behind the shaft to deliver the sweet spot on plane.

2) PP #4 can be held too long. YODA and VJ Trolio show the example of the towel under the arm drill. The towel must fall out just past low point or you are not fully taking advantage of PA #4.

Sorry if too obvious and basic (or wrong!) ...

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Old 10-29-2010, 10:03 AM
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Is it possible to 'use' the pressure points incorrectly?
The usual poor shot is created by incorrect ressure point pressure. How could it not be?

Remember that everything that moves the club is channeled through pp#1, #2 and #3. Unless you have some counter productive pressure points not listed in TGM - for instance through a very odd grip.
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