Yah that makes sense assuming enough clubhead speed, and enough divergence to the two. Wasnt there something about the degree of divergence necessary for curvature? Where the hecks my book.....
For Horizontal Hinge Action (Ideal Compression), the Clubface is Open at Impact and Square only at Separation (1-L #17).
And, using approximate 'clock' terms, the Center of the Ball is at 7:00 at Impact and at 6:00 -- and precisely On Line -- at
Separation.
Study 2-C-1 (Linear Force -- The Ideal Application) and Sketches 2-C-1 #1, #2A & B and #3.
Thank you again.
I need to work on my terminology. All of those impacts should have said separation.
Now that I have looked at 2-C-1 #1, #2, #2b and #3 in more detail, it is more clear than ever that the striker is moving to the right. One would certainly have to point this to the left to create a straight shot if hit before low point.
It looks like HK was pretty darn close to describing the D-plane in pictures.
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I need to work on my terminology. All of those impacts should have said separation.
Now that I have looked at 2-C-1 #1, #2, #2b and #3 in more detail, it is more clear than ever that the striker is moving to the right. One would certainly have to point this to the left to create a straight shot if hit before low point.
It looks like HK was pretty darn close to describing the D-plane in pictures.
It took me a minute to figure things out.
I respect your work, its always well thought out and above else on this wonderful internet.......fair.
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With your assumptions on the face conditions the ball would likely draw left of the target . . . I would think.
Its making more sense to me why having the proper setup with your clubs is important. The club makers have catered to open faces so they build in more "hook" face to compensate..so you get someone like me who is more inside than out who buys a set of these off the rack and it just exacerbates the problem.
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Many of my shots are weak fades/slices. But from time to time I feel that I have made a good shot. It's long and straight. But the divots go out to left as usual - maybe as much as 20-30 degrees. Why does then the shot go straight? What determines whether a shot is a slice or straight when swing path is the same? I'm not talking about pulls - that I understand - it's the straight one that puzzle me.
Air,
First congratulations - posting at a 3.79 posts per day - clip - that's Ted Williams type stuff - even Bucket's a mere 1.91 post per day - at this rate you'll be LBG Hall of Fame material!
Air,
As long as the clubface "horizontal" alignment i.e. taking the loft out of the equation (we know that there is going to be backspin) and the clubhead path are on the line of compression - you'll hit a straight shot. If you've played the ball back far enough in your stance - "up plane" - then you'd need to have the plane line well left of the target line - in order to produce that straight shot.
Let's assume that the hinge action is "dual horizontal" - let's assume you're using a Sandwedge. Let's assume from a clubshaft parallel to the ground until the clubshaft has reached low point that the clubface closes 90 degrees - like a door. Now let's assume that the orbit length for that clubhead is 45 inches - from that parallel clubshaft halfway down location to that vertical clubshaft at lowpoint - Every inch of travel allows 2 degrees of clubface closing. Say you impact the ball 9 inches before low point - then your face is pointing 18 degrees right of target - the only way to hit that straight at the target is to have an open plane line. Hence, your straight shot at the target - with a divot 16 -18 degrees left of target. Completely legit - appropriate - and correct. Moral of the story- a divot well left of target isn't always a bad thing.
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Air,
First congratulations - posting at a 3.79 posts per day - clip - that's Ted Williams type stuff - even Bucket's a mere 1.91 post per day - at this rate you'll be LBG Hall of Fame material!
Air,
As long as the clubface "horizontal" alignment i.e. taking the loft out of the equation (we know that there is going to be backspin) and the clubhead path are on the line of compression - you'll hit a straight shot. If you've played the ball back far enough in your stance - "up plane" - then you'd need to have the plane line well left of the target line - in order to produce that straight shot. Let's assume that the hinge action is "dual horizontal" - let's assume you're using a sandwedge. Let's assume from a clubshaft parallel to the groud until the clubshaft has reached low point that the clubface closes 90 degrees - like a door. Now let's assume that the orbit length for that clubhead is 45 inches - from that parallel clubshaft halfway down location to that vertical clubshaft at lowpoint - Every inch of travel allows 2 degrees of clubface closing. Say you impact the ball 9 inches before low point - then your face is pointing 18 degrees right of target - the only way to hit that straight at the target is to have an open plane line. Hence, your straight shot at the target - with a divot 16 -18 degrees left of target. Completely legit - appropriate - and correct. Moral of the story- a divot well left of target isn't always a bad thing.
I guess it is easier to have a high postscore over a shorter time than those who have been 5 years or more.
I should maybe have mentioned that I was mostly talking about a 6 iron shot (and occasionally a 2-hybrid) and not so much the shorter irons, in case that makes a difference? I think you are the first who has given me permission to have divots to the left. Thank you. That would in case be terrific news.
If all shots went straight, there wouldn't have been any problems. But the slice also shows its ugly face.
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