I totally agree about what you say about shaft lean. Being able to manipulate that is an important part of shot making though.
" ... to account for the time of them to get in line.."
This applies mostly to driveloading, no?
If you're a swinger with pure CF, the aiming point will only account for where the swing path is pointing at impact. The left wrist is then truly CF flat at impact regardless of where you locate your aiming point.
The side spin will be determined by the overtaking rate at imapct, and adjustments to the grip; Everything else will stay the same. So I think I understand the basis for this question.
My goto high draw with some distance is a pure CF swing where I place the aiming point quite some distance before the ball. If I struggle with poor dynamics I aim on the plane line, but away from the target. That's right. Aiming town right when the ball is supposed to go up and left. It prevents an independend arms swing and let the pivot carry the arms instead. It reinforces a sequenced and late release with late pp#3 rotation and reinforces a lot of things that are good for impact dynamics.
It took a while before I figured out that putting the ball back in the stance and just take a swing at it didn't produce a low ball flight at all. I had to to add some finesse - blend in some driveloading to manipulate the height of the ball flight and / or some pivot finesse to manipulate the hinge acction. The I work the ball the more important the aiming point gets.
I usually think more of the clubhead than what is recommended in TGM, but when it comes to aiming point, it is lot about the hands; Where I direct the hands and the lag presure I want to feel in the hands when I get there.
maybe . . . . still gotta account for pulley diameter . . . cf works on big wheels as well as small wheels no?
What if you thrust out to any part of the Base Line of the Plane?
Originally Posted by Daryl
Aiming Point, when not the inside aft quadrant of the ball, is located on the delivery line which visually directs the Clubhead. This is an alternate way of assuring an On-Plane Stroke by visualizing the Clubhead Orbit.
If you draw the Clubhead Arc on the Ground, it will always pass through the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. The Aiming Point would be somewhere along this Arc Line.
If you, as I do, prefer to trace the Plane Line with the #3 PP, then the Aiming Point ( if you want to call it that ) will always be the inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. I guess when I think hard about it, I'm directing Thrust along the Plane Line with the focus on intersecting the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. Hmm? I guess that the Inside Quad of the ball is my Aiming Point.
( I think, I'm close, at least, to understanding the Aiming Point Concept )(I need the Posts. I heard that after 4,000 posts, ya get free lessons )
I trace the BLP going back but feel like I can fire at any part of that line once my weight is forward even if I set the Hula to start. If I sweep and it's an automatic release, I want to throw out at the line after my hands drop to waist high. If a non-automatic release, I try to hold to the belt-buckle remembering that the goal is not the ball but Both Arms Straight!
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Teach what happened to you? Makita and Hull? Now that was pre Flyers I know......old time hockey, original six.
They were hockey immortals for sure. I used to have a photo of Hull above my bed when I was a kid. Every night I prayed he'd get traded to the Leafs. Every night. Never happened , maybe I have a few prayers left to be answered though. Hope so. Patrick Kane in blue and white maybe? Got to do some work on that one. Let us pray.
...or you can use the Impact Fix Hand location as a gateway.
I am very new to TGM. Spent a day each with David Orr and Jeff Evans last year. My game improved significantly since. Forward leaning shaft, lag, trying to move the swing bottom forward, etc.. is the main changes I am making. I haven't hooked a ball since which is saying something as this was my long time nemesis. I hit shots straight, but to the right of my intended target line. I have made huge strides from where I started. Read Bobby's Impact Zone book and saw the dvds recently. However, I fail to grasp the aiming point, or should I say I don't know how to quantify it. I must be doing it to some degree, but not in a conscious way. Meaning, I don't have a spot on the ground I am aiming at as mentioned in Clampett's dvds. I keep reading about folks using pp3 to some effect. I am learning to monitor it as it relates to maintaining lag, but not sure how that is used in conjunction with the aiming point. I am curious about the above comment. What is Impact Fix Hand location? My copy of TGM is on the way from Amazon, so I apologize for asking questions about a theory I have not even read yet. Just eager to learn more.
I am very new to TGM. Spent a day each with David Orr and Jeff Evans last year. My game improved significantly since. Forward leaning shaft, lag, trying to move the swing bottom forward, etc.. is the main changes I am making. I haven't hooked a ball since which is saying something as this was my long time nemesis. I hit shots straight, but to the right of my intended target line. I have made huge strides from where I started. Read Bobby's Impact Zone book and saw the dvds recently. However, I fail to grasp the aiming point, or should I say I don't know how to quantify it. I must be doing it to some degree, but not in a conscious way. Meaning, I don't have a spot on the ground I am aiming at as mentioned in Clampett's dvds. I keep reading about folks using pp3 to some effect. I am learning to monitor it as it relates to maintaining lag, but not sure how that is used in conjunction with the aiming point. I am curious about the above comment. What is Impact Fix Hand location? My copy of TGM is on the way from Amazon, so I apologize for asking questions about a theory I have not even read yet. Just eager to learn more.
-Dan
This is good! YOu have come to the right place . . . I read Clampett's book . . . it's very good . . . BUT . . . he has aiming point mixed up for sure . . . he IS TALKING ABOUT IMPACT HAND LOCATION PROCEEDURE . . . NOT AIMING POINT . . . . Drew is 100% money dolla billz as usual!!! So once you get your book and read up on aiming point you'll see the differences . . . no biggie but Clampett is not using the proper terminology at least as far as Machine spanglish . . . and mixing up procedures/procedural terms . . . that being said book is good but until you separate the two . . . confusion will reign in your reading here. No knock on Bobby's book . . . just didn't get that right.
This is good! YOu have come to the right place . . . I read Clampett's book . . . it's very good . . . BUT . . . he has aiming point mixed up for sure . . . he IS TALKING ABOUT IMPACT HAND LOCATION PROCEEDURE . . . NOT AIMING POINT . . . . Drew is 100% money dolla billz as usual!!! So once you get your book and read up on aiming point you'll see the differences . . . no biggie but Clampett is not using the proper terminology at least as far as Machine spanglish . . . and mixing up procedures/procedural terms . . . that being said book is good but until you separate the two . . . confusion will reign in your reading here. No knock on Bobby's book . . . just didn't get that right.
I am reminded that Bobby Clampett was a student of Ben Doyle and Ben Doyle has "aiming Point" labled on his facts and illusions mat, and, as I recall, he has also said the aiming point is at/near the impact fix hand location. This is a very difficult concept to apply without a better GEOMETRIC explanation. I hope someone can help me also because I have not been able to put any solid geometric understanding into my incubator. Power Package delivery paths and lines make the confusion maybe???
I place my confidence in Mr. Buckets answer back at #7. It is part of power package delivery. Beyond that I become clueless. I have experimented with sliding point +/- on the plane line etc. and all just leave me more confused. My current use is not a point at all but a feel for the location I need to get my hands for release. And i know when its wrong but I also find it VERY hard to fix. It involves more than just hitting that hand location a little more forward or aft. may even tie into hands controled pivot????
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