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View Poll Results: The Impact Sequence in this Photo depicts
Angled Hinging 8 57.14%
Horizontal Hinging 4 28.57%
Swiveling through Impact 0 0%
None of the above 2 14.29%
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:43 PM
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:49 PM
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:27 PM
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Based on the fact that the ball has rotated backwards and is higher at separation than impact, per 2-C-3 it would be a lob shot.
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:19 PM
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All shots will have backspin - unless topped. COG of a clubhead under the COG of a ball = lift and with the loft = backspin.
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by John Graham View Post
Based on the fact that the ball has rotated backwards and is higher at separation than impact, per 2-C-3 it would be a lob shot.
John,

Your 'agenda' grows increasingly more obvious.

Add something substantive to your baiting tactics . . .

Or leave.

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Old 11-22-2010, 09:43 PM
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Lynn,

A poor attempt at humor and I will erase my post.

My vote is still for none of the above.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:06 PM
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Lynn,

A poor attempt at humor and I will erase my post.

My vote is still for none of the above.
Naah, not that easy.

By executive decree . . .

Your post stands.

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Old 11-22-2010, 10:31 PM
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Hmm...

There seems to be an increasing degree of layback here. So I guess we're talking about an angled hinge here. If I believed someone could drive a ball with vertical I would have perhaps suggested that one, because ball compression looks good and I can't see any closing.

Since we don't see the hinge pin it is impossible to see whether the swing arch throught the ball is pure. It looks like the club is already laid back. But the head doesn't seem to go up, does it. It looks a bit slicin' under the ball to me, but that could be due to the COG of the clubhead being so far behind the shaft that the layback in the first picture is just a shaft layback and not a COG layback.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:44 AM
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I enlarged the Photo 20x and outlined the ball and drew some lines to better observe the Impact.



Things I've noticed:

This is only a face view. I would need a Top View to observe the Line of Compression coming into horizontal alignment with the center of gravity orbit.

"Kick" plays a huge roll in Ball Response. The upward rotation in frame 3 is 99% Kick. Go Homer.
The Ball did not roll up the face of the inclined striker
The Impact Point stayed glued to the clubface
The Clubhead dropped 1/8" from Impact to separation
The Impact Point is lower at Max Compression than at Impact - down the Sweetspot Orbit - Ok - check
Bulge at Max compression flows up and down almost equally but the flow below center occurs in a much shorter time frame. It has twice the compression in the same amount of time.
The Word "Callaway" became compressed
You can observe side bulge by noticing how the word "Callaway" curved at Max Impact
The Clubface has closed a massive amount. By massive, I mean more than a "Hinge" should be able to produce. ???
The Clubface has Titled Backwards but it doesn't look like Layback. It looks like shaft torque. Kick, etc. The Layback occurs while the ball is moving away - resilience - is that enough? no: Angled Hinge should show tilt at max compression, this picture doesn't show that
The Ball is -wow- stationary. The center of the ball simply doesn't want to move. The front of the ball has no clue whats going on at the back of the ball.
The Compression below the center of Ball is far greater than above the Center

Where is 12 pc Bucket when you need him? is he in Jail again?
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:39 PM
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Great Post
What else do we know. Club head speed?. A real golfer or a Iron Byron thingy?
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