Got Rhythm?

[Daryl]

Given a Flat Left Wrist and Bent Right Wrist, the Clubshaft can remain on 3 Planes simultaneously.

1. The Inclined Plane
2. the Plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge
3. the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend.

[Bagger Lance]

Bernt and MikeO,

Yes the clubhead swivel can have a faster RPM than the left arm and shoulder, and it varies with release type and a bunch of other variables. Please reconcile that with rhythm for me.

I'm struggling with how to marry that with the way Daryl and I have interpreted rhythm.

[Mike O]

6-B-3-0
"Accumulator #3 is Rhythm control" and later he writes "Do both (horizontal and angled hinging) alternately until you see the distinct difference in the Rhythm and clubhead travel of all three of the roll procedures".

The amount of accumulator #3 motion - influences the clubhead travel - the distinct and different clubhead travel as felt/perceived by the player for each of the three hinge actions is Rhythm.

Clubhead travel, Rhythm - relate to RPM - rotations per minute - the number of angular degrees in which a "thing" travels in relation to a 360 degree circle. Take a short shot where the player hits three shots - all with the same RPM of the hands - each one the player uses a different hinge action - that's one example of different clubhead travel, different rhythm, different RPM's for the clubshaft and the same RPM for the hands.

[Bagger Lance]

Mike,

I'm cool with that, Hinge Action is already comprehended in the sketches that Daryl made and our discussions in this thread.

In essence, each hinge action differs in the left arm flying wedge "closing rate" because of clubhead travel. Hence each have their own ryhthm. Even though the left arm and clubhead may turn at different RPM's throughout the swing, the rhythm (RPM) of the flying wedge is constant for the hinge action in use.

FYI you and Bucket are the only two members allowed to apologize when posting.
If I'm wrong I'll apologize and shave my head.

[Daryl]

6-B-3-0
"Accumulator #3 is Rhythm control" and later he writes "Do both (horizontal and angled hinging) alternately until you see the distinct difference in the Rhythm and clubhead travel of all three of the roll procedures".

HK is referring to the Right Forearm Rolling about an Axis Perpendicular to the Horizontal, Vertical or Angled Plane. Those are the available "roll procedures". That ensures that while the Clubface is closing per the Pivot or Orbiting Arms, the Clubface becomes aligned to one of the associated planes.

The Term "roll procedure" is unique from the Clubface Turn and Roll brought about by the Pivot or Orbiting Arms, or Clubshaft Rotation using Swivel.

The amount of accumulator #3 motion - influences the clubhead travel - the distinct and different clubhead travel as felt/perceived by the player for each of the three hinge actions is Rhythm.

A greater #3 Accumulator Angle produces more Clubhead travel for all Three Roll Procedures. A rising tide raises all boats.

Clubhead travel, Rhythm - relate to RPM - rotations per minute - the number of angular degrees in which a "thing" travels in relation to a 360 degree circle. Take a short shot where the player hits three shots - all with the same RPM of the hands - each one the player uses a different hinge action - that's one example of different clubhead travel, different rythm, different RPM's for the clubshaft and the same RPM for the hands.

You're confusing "Swivel" and "Hinge". From the Swivel perspective, the Clubhead is experiencing travel distances because you're changing the amount of Swivel Rotation per inches of Hand travel. Swivel doesn't Align the Clubface to any associated Plane. The Clubface is Aligned to the Rotation of the Shaft.

Swivel is very different than Hinging.

Look at my dowel rod setups in post #74. Attach a Club alongside of the short dowel and as you rotate about the Axis, notice that the Clubface becomes associated with the same axis as the perpendicular pole. Then, you'll appreciate RPM per TGM.

[Bagger Lance]

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[Daryl]

RPM, RPM, RPM. I like the cardboard door. Great, great video.

[O.B.Left]

OB
Daryl's drawing wasn't focused on the inclined plane, but the drawing is still relevent to it. The bottom edge of the triangle (clubshaft) is lying on the inclined plane from release to follow-though. The other lines are not related to the inclined plane, but are related to the plane of the left wristcock motion.

He could make it fancier to show the inclined plane/sweetspot plane, but I'm pretty happy with the artwork.

Bagger nice to have you posting again. Are you saying that the left wrists direction of cocking is aligned towards the left shoulder despite the Inclined Plane Angle? Id maintain it cocks and uncocks on the Inclined Plane whilst the left hand is turned to plane. Making D's drawings accurate for a "left shoulder" plane , only.

[Mike O]

You're confusing "Swivel" and "Hinge". From the Swivel perspective, the Clubhead is experiencing travel distances because you're changing the amount of Swivel Rotation per inches of Hand travel. Swivel doesn't Align the Clubface to any associated Plane. The Clubface is Aligned to the Rotation of the Shaft.

Swivel is very different than Hinging.

Look at my dowel rod setups in post #74. Attach a Club alongside of the short dowel and as you rotate about the Axis, notice that the Clubface becomes associated with the same axis as the perpendicular pole. Then, you'll appreciate RPM per TGM.

Daryl,
I may have missed alot in this thread - however I could see Bernt's point and since in your post #26 you stated "But because the Flat Left Wrist and Clubface remained aligned (Left Arm Wedge) during the 9-3 interval, they have the same Rhythm - RPM." I was just noting that when you have forearm or upper arm rotation with a number 3 accumulator- it will add (assuming it's in the direction of the target) to the RPM of the clubshaft and make it different than that of the arm/hand unit - regardless whether the left wrist remains flat and the flying wedge remains intact. That's all - nothing more.

P.S. Just so there is no confusion if someone is reading this post trying to learn - I'm assuming you meant Clubshaft and not Clubface - in the highlighted quote above.

[Bagger Lance]

Bagger nice to have you posting again. Are you saying that the left wrists direction of cocking is aligned towards the left shoulder despite the Inclined Plane Angle? Id maintain it cocks and uncocks on the Inclined Plane whilst the left hand is turned to plane. Making D's drawings accurate for a "left shoulder" plane , only.

Noooo. Its not about a left shoulder incline plane alignment, its about a left shoulder hinge pin.

Again - the top of the triangle is the hinge pin (left shoulder), the middle angle is the left wrist, the bottom angle is the clubhead. The line between the clubhead and left shoulder hinge pin is a reference line to complete the plane. (Its a "flying" wedge).

See the video from lynn above, then look at the drawings and imagine the left arm flying wedge in motion throughout the stroke. Including #3 accumulator roll. The left wrist is the wedge in the triangle and the outer edge of the plane rotates around it through impact.

When the clubshaft is on the inclined plane, the uncocking and roll occurs on the incline plane. The bottom line between the left wrist point and clubhead point represents the clubshaft.

Another way to visualize is imagine a rubber string from the clubhead to your left shoulder. That would represent an outer edge of the wedge. And yes, the string would hit your neck near the top of backstroke. Just pretend its a magic string that can pass through your neck without chopping off your head.

I wish we could animate this stuff.