The main reason I asked about that move still being relevant is that I have a hard time starting the down stroke.
Tomasello's tip seemed to me to be a great way to insure my right shoulder started down plane and that it could also possibly help with my start move down.
After reading in another thread that my pivot was probably not the best. I now know that not being able to get my right shoulder started down plane correctly, pivot and of course weight shift are of all related.
I'm not sure if I have a flat shoulder turn or not on back stroke? On the down swing I know I do hence my OTT move that I have never been able to cure completely, but I don't think thats what you mean. Standing up in the down stroke, causing OTT and pull hooks, pulls and push fades is not a flat shoulder turn on back stroke!
Will it never end?
It will when those proper Alignments start becoming a mainstay in your Motion "The only real short cuts are more and more know-how" 1-E. Follow the Yellow-Book Road, seek the guidance of the Green One, and it'll come
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The main reason I asked about that move still being relevant is that I have a hard time starting the down stroke.
Tomasello's tip seemed to me to be a great way to insure my right shoulder started down plane and that it could also possibly help with my start move down.
After reading in another thread that my pivot was probably not the best. I now know that not being able to get my right shoulder started down plane correctly, pivot and of course weight shift are of all related.
I'm not sure if I have a flat shoulder turn or not on back stroke? On the down swing I know I do hence my OTT move that I have never been able to cure completely, but I don't think thats what you mean. Standing up in the down stroke, causing OTT and pull hooks, pulls and push fades is not a flat shoulder turn on back stroke!
Will it never end?
Tom also said (I think),by dropping the R/shoulder down,it has a couple of good things happen. 1. It enables the R/elbow to clear the right hip,and 2. it enables the swing to make inside out to path thus stopping the dreaded OTT
Very important to note that that aspect of the video can be easily misunderstood to disastrous results. It appears (to me) that his shoulder moves down vertically.
The right shoulder works down plane, NOT simply down. (A common reaction to a path that is already too inside-out)
My bad Andy,you are quite right,i simply took it as down plane,we sometimes have to explain ourselves right straight up.
Ive been away TOO long but will get back in the saddle soon nuff cheers
Actually, my bad, I didn't mean to give the impression I was correcting you, sorry. lol
I mentioned it because, in watching the video, I noticed that it really looks like his shoulder moves straight down... I'm sure that was unintentional, but it could confuse people.
I developed that exact flaw as a hook compensation brought on by an ill-advised grip adjustment - and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Truly awful. ^_^
Very important to note that that aspect of the video can be easily misunderstood to disastrous results. It appears (to me) that his shoulder moves down vertically.
The right shoulder works down plane, NOT simply down. (A common reaction to a path that is already too inside-out)
Yes, let's watch Mr. Tomasello in action swing a golf club and demonstrate the lowering of the right shoulder. BTW, per the comment of the individual watching Tommy execute golf shots, I don't believe he is producing disastrous results. Got to be one of the best golf swings of any G.O.L.F authorized instructor.
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Yes, let's watch Mr. Tomasello in action swing a golf club and demonstrate the lowering of the right shoulder. BTW, per the comment of the individual watching Tommy execute golf shots, I don't believe he is producing disastrous results. Got to be one of the best golf swings of any G.O.L.F authorized instructor.
Very end of tape has a great explanation of re-connecting and Both Arms Straight by example.
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Yes, let's watch Mr. Tomasello in action swing a golf club and demonstrate the lowering of the right shoulder. BTW, per the comment of the individual watching Tommy execute golf shots, I don't believe he is producing disastrous results. Got to be one of the best golf swings of any G.O.L.F authorized instructor.
I enjoy watching that swing very much, just as I do others like YODA and McHatton and many other TGM practitioners.. Different approaches to The Machine, all beautifully done.
I don't get to play or practice much anymore, but I was giving a lesson the other day to a good follower of TGM who I was working with for the first time. He told me my swing looked like Lynn's. The best compliment I could have gotten, but I think he was just trying to make me feel good... This gentleman had a wonderful motion as well, but played from the wrong side. Somehow, The Magic Of The Left Forearm just doesn't have the same ring to it!
DG, thanks for sharing more insight into Mr. Tomasello!!!
Kevin
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This gentleman had a wonderful motion as well, but played from the wrong side. Somehow, The Magic Of The Left Forearm just doesn't have the same ring to it! 
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