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Old 07-20-2011, 08:13 PM
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How key is the frozen level right wrist?
how important is the frozen level right wrist? It seems to be very important to me.

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Old 07-21-2011, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ndwolfe81 View Post
how important is the frozen level right wrist? It seems to be very important to me.
Without it, I a hopeless "flipper" who has to hope his timing is on else who knows where the driver is going!
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:38 PM
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A reminder, just in case - a level wrist is actually partially uncocked. Some assume, incorrectly, that level is the condition of the wrist with the arm hanging at the side - a sort of neutral position. If you already know this, please disregard.
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:54 PM
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Try hitting some little right arm only chips. First with a frozen right hand ('frozen in it's Fix degree of bend!!! Not maximum bend possible..... it is a precision alignment). With and without a lagging takeaway ( where you establish the degree of bend during Startup rather than just Starting Up with it fixed).

Then try some chips with a rubbery right hand unbending through impact. As you unbend it more and more you wlll appraoch breaking the golfers flail the flat left wrist. You'll notice a loss of compression and most likely a higher ball flight with more spin with a drop in consistency too, the occasional fat shot.

The frozen right hand is the right sides version of the flat left wrist and all that that brings. That said you can un bend the right hand intentionally for specialty (short flop) shots around the green. Another form of intentional throwaway or an intentional loss of compression.



Question for you guys:

You know how Homer loved Hogans swing but detested flippy whippy rubber wrists......which used to perplex me as i used to think Hogan was kind of rubbery. Am I right in thinking that the explanation lies in Rythm the Flat Left Wrist, the Golfers Flail vs the farmers flail with it's flippy whippy connction??

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Old 07-27-2011, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Try hitting some little right arm only chips. First with a frozen right hand ('frozen in it's Fix degree of bend!!! Not maximum bend possible it's a precision alignment). With and without a lagging takeaway ( where you establish the degree of bend during Startup rather than just Starting Up with it fixed).

Then try some chips with a rubbery right hand unbending through impact. As you unbend it more and more you wlll appraoch breaking the golfers flail the flat left wrist. You'll notice a loss of compression and most likely a higher ball flight with more spin with a drop in consistency too.

The frozen right hand is the right sides version of the flat left wrist and all that that brings. That said you can un bend the right hand intentionally for specialty (short flop) shots around the green. Another form of intentional throwaway or an intentional loss of compression.



Question for you guys:

You know how Homer loved Hogans swing but detested flippy whippy rubber wrists......which used to perplex me as i used to think Hogan was kind of rubbery. Am I right in thinking that the explanation lies in Rythm the Flat Left Wrist, the Golfers Flail vs the farmers flail with it's flippy whippy connction??
Simply focusing on a frozen RW from start up to impact has provided some interesting results for me. Have always been an underplaner into impact and I'm theorizing that much of it is due to an uber flexible right wrist that would naturally bend back on itself even more at transition. Low ball hitter, hate the 3-wood, etc. When focusing more on maintaining a constant RW bend things got better in a hurry.

The putter even gets better with that image.

CG
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Old 07-31-2011, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cometgolfer View Post
Simply focusing on a frozen RW from start up to impact has provided some interesting results for me. Have always been an underplaner into impact and I'm theorizing that much of it is due to an uber flexible right wrist that would naturally bend back on itself even more at transition. Low ball hitter, hate the 3-wood, etc. When focusing more on maintaining a constant RW bend things got better in a hurry.

The putter even gets better with that image.

CG
Thanks comet.

Ive heard you talking about this under plane thing before. ARe you by chance over turning , swiveling your left wrist in Startup? Nancy Lopez, Raymond Floyd style? Swiveling under plane? It begets the opposite action coming back into the ball , also bad. I used to do that many moons ago. I sort of took it outside but brought the head back inside with an over turning of the left wrist .....brutal stuff from years ago.

Tracing and using the Right Arm to take it back fixed it , got rid of the last remnants of it ..... finally and forever. The Right Elbow bending UP supplies the UP of the Clubhead, the pivot turning supplies the IN. They both contribute to the BACK. The three dimensions of IMpact and takeaway being BACK, IN and UP. The UP of the Right Elbow bending ensures the on plane motion .....without it you'd have Single Horizontal, a conical shaped motion to the primary lever as opposed to Double Horizontals on plane motion. Think the Machine from 1-L.

Its confusing I know but you could just plug your nose and go with it , the Right Arm Takeaway , with its Right Elbow Fanning and PIckup or Right Elbow Bending and see what happens......bet you see some on plane motion. Its a brilliant bit of HOmers thinking. The right arm is uniquely positioned to the lifting while the left side is not. The lifting does occur over top of the right elbow. And like motions we make when doing all sorts of everyday things the shoulders do not have to plane themselves to the target the Hands are going towards. YOu dont align your shoulder plane to the thing you are reaching for ....... a glass , your shoes etc. The shoulders provide some power, facilitate things for sure but the pivot and the hands (which is what the brain is directing) go their separate ways , directions in common movement and in the golf swing.

I dunno just sharing what has helped me....... profoundly. I used to provide some IN with the left hand and that was killing me. Gotta keep those flash lights pointing at the target line or you're off plane.

Hey have you ever goofed around with flash lights or lasers stuck in the butt end of your club? Its a revelation. Getting on plane has immediate. results. Immediate!!!!!!!

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Old 07-31-2011, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Hey have you ever goofed around with flash lights or lasers stuck in the butt end of your club? Its a revelation. Getting on plane has immediate. results. Immediate!!!!!!!


IMMEDIATE!!!

RFT makes it so easy, and YODA taught us how to combine The Right Forearm Magic with the pivot using the MacDonald Exercises. Brilliant!

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Old 07-31-2011, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cometgolfer View Post
Simply focusing on a frozen RW from start up to impact has provided some interesting results for me. Have always been an underplaner into impact and I'm theorizing that much of it is due to an uber flexible right wrist that would naturally bend back on itself even more at transition. Low ball hitter, hate the 3-wood, etc. When focusing more on maintaining a constant RW bend things got better in a hurry.

The putter even gets better with that image.

CG
Comet,
Do you have a strong grip or arched wrist at top? Ball back, head forward, something.......can't think of any underplaners that hate 3 woods and even fewer that have low ball flight without one of those first mentioned.
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Old 07-31-2011, 05:17 PM
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OB - Yes, I've got one of those grip/butt lasers and could never get it to trace a line that wasn't a few feet above the base of the plane unless I tried to intentionally come OTT. That was such a bizarre feeling that I just gave up on it. I pulled that laser out this week with a focus on a frozen RW and I was so much closer to tracing the plane line on the downswing it was almost shocking. Just need to keep working it. I may be a little underplane going back but I haven't seen any video of my swing in a while. I should probably get some new vids in the next week or so.

JTillery - I used to be a bit arched at top and at impact, but it doesn't feel like I am as much now. One thing I've always been able to do is get back on plane at impact. I'll be under-plane a couple of feet before impact and it looks like I "trip" the shaft and get it on back plane into impact (followed by a low left exit from impact). The 3-wood became such a nemesis for me that I simply quit carrying one, but I've surprised myself at how high and solid I'm hitting a 12.5 off the deck that last few times out. My guess is that I was more arched in the past which may explain my hate/hate relationship with 3-woods.

Thanks for the feedback guys,

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Old 07-31-2011, 07:18 PM
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If you take a left arm only swing it'll seem like the left arm swivels back and then swivels through with the head passing the hands (ideally with a flat left wrist of course). But if you take a right arm only swing given a RFFW and frozen right wrist it'll seem like there is very little swiveling going on. The weird thing is that these two pictures can actually co exist in the same swing with both arms attached.

I used to have a very left sided view of things, turning and rolling , a left side push away ...... a tendency to over turn going back which took the club off plane. Now , even if Im swinging I have a more right sided "view" or perception of things.


HOmer was very big on this concept. He believed that hitting or swinging the mysteries of golf fade away when right arm participation is understood. Its magical.
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