I may have mentioned before,but I mainly practice in and around 40 yrds,and every now and then hit long shots.So in saying this,it goes without saying that I hit every shot imaginable around greens,so ,in order not to get too bogged down and lose interest,A couple of weeks ago I began chipping using left and then the right ,it all hit home when I began getting into "plane of motion" in the book,it is a real fun time ,you really learn about alighnments of both arms and most of all...CONCENTRATION...no doubt a lot here have tried....love to hear your findings and results L+R handed
K couple of things come to mind. Re left arm only motion : I asked Lynn if for a left arm , Pull Minor Basic Stroke one should still employ a Right ARm takeaway . Answer YES! Also note that for all but the Pull Minor Basic strokes the left arm muscles themselves do not pull anything , as the left arm is for those shots said to be Inert. Inert means inert . Funny story here . Lynn once when discussing a similar point with Homer asked if any muscular effort could be involved given an inert right arm. Answer: "Now what dont you understand about "inert"! Anywhoo , your Left Arm only drill is ok but make sure you dont ingrain a left arm push away or a left arm pull for anything longer than a Minor Basic Stroke.
Re the Right Arm only. Fine . Tiger chips and putts likes this.
Re both arms , re a right arm consciousness vs a left . The left sided perception is the flail : uncocking and rolling down the line with the clubhead passing the hands. The right sided perception is the angled Right Forearm flying wedge staying intact , with a frozen ish right hand through the ball . THESE PERCEPTIONS CO EXIST IN THE TWO ARMED SWING. THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE , strangely. You will see this if you imagine the plane of the two wedges as say 90 degrees to one another and them both rolling through the ball . Not a swivelling of the forearms or anything .. no! Its a rolling of the entire Primary Lever (Left arm and club) with the Right Forearm FLying Wedge rolling with along with it . A hinge action is not a hands manipulated thing, even though its defined by the left hands relationship to one of the three basic planes. AH Homer what did you do to my brain!!! Im talking like a mad man.
It took a long time to understand that the club can exist on two planes simultaneously when the wedges are aligned at 90 degrees. The left arm plane and the plane of the right wrist bend. No need to worry about right or left anymore.
Ob, what's your favorite way to align the wedges at right angles?
Ob, what's your favorite way to align the wedges at right angles?
How I set my left hand would determine where the plane of the left wrist cock lies vs a vis the plane of the right wrist bend since I set my Right Hand Level . The more turned the left hand at Fix , the more the Plane of the Left Wrist Cock approaches the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend !
But like in all things Homer there are some finer points we could get into.. But that might be for another thread.
It took a long time to understand that the club can exist on two planes simultaneously when the wedges are aligned at 90 degrees. The left arm plane and the plane of the right wrist bend. No need to worry about right or left anymore.
Ob, what's your favorite way to align the wedges at right angles?
That is a great question also. Soo many things at the same time. How to align, the wedges on their respective planes, for horizontal hinging, left vertical plane right inclined with dual horizontal hinge, for angled hinge, easier, all with fix bend right, flat left, no cocking action in right, rotating pp#3 for horizontal hinge, etc? There is a lot of geometry here. I bet it goes all the way back through the shoulder lead/lag, axis tilt, pivot etc.
Great question!
Can all the alignments exist simultaneously? If not, which are subordinate? Do we realy want to teach the left to do only left alignments and right to do only right alignments? Can we do all with either the left or the right?
HB
Last edited by HungryBear : 11-22-2012 at 12:58 PM.
Thanks OB,pretty much what Im doing,good call,R./arm chip (for me) has the feel that it becomes easier when I get the feel that I actually "feel" as if Im really getting down to sweet spot plane so long as I concentrate on the palm being the pressure point going down.
The left is a complete different story,the best way that I have come up with is to lift the clubhead over the ball,let it simply travel over the top of ball (toward target) and allow the lever assembly go back to bout waist high(letting shoulder travel be normal)....pivot on downswing allowing clubhead to drop normally into ball the pivot straightens entire lever into finding its own travel,now all this is only a gentle compression action,the follow thru of left assembly is actually quite a high finish for such a small action....if the 2 actions are monitored carefully,a lot of insight comes out of the whole drill........planewise..cheers
Thanks OB,pretty much what Im doing,good call,R./arm chip (for me) has the feel that it becomes easier when I get the feel that I actually "feel" as if Im really getting down to sweet spot plane so long as I concentrate on the palm being the pressure point going down.
The left is a complete different story,the best way that I have come up with is to lift the clubhead over the ball,let it simply travel over the top of ball (toward target) and allow the lever assembly go back to bout waist high(letting shoulder travel be normal)....pivot on downswing allowing clubhead to drop normally into ball the pivot straightens entire lever into finding its own travel,now all this is only a gentle compression action,the follow thru of left assembly is actually quite a high finish for such a small action....if the 2 actions are monitored carefully,a lot of insight comes out of the whole drill........planewise..cheers
The left arm is just very poorly situated to do any big lifting of the club on the backswing .... the right arm however ? No problem. To the extent there is any lifting and there is , it should be done with the Right . (Ideally momentum does most of it... the "no up in the backswing notion" is a great notion but not 100 percent accurate IMO. Homers called it a Right Arm Pickup and it is. While I believe its best to minimize any lifting there is some . And to achieve this , perhaps a rarity amongst golfers ....you need lag and drag on the takeaway . A lagging takeaway morphing into Standard Wrist Action , Lynn Blake style . Momentum created by Zone 1, adopted by Zone 2 and sensed and then used by Zone 3 the hands to effect what Lynn calls Start Up Swivel. The lagging takeaway provides the momentum for Start Up Swivel. Ground /Up backstroke . Inside / out backstroke . Its hard to learn and to put into words BUT PRACTICING STIFF LEFT ARMED ONLY PUSH AWAYS FROM FIX WILL ONLY SET YOU BACK IF YOU WANT A LAGGING TAKEAWAY. Most guys will never ever come close to having one and for them the Carry Back is the way to go if by subconscious default.
You may be able to tell that im preaching like the newly converted.... it wasnt easy. This all relates to the magic of the Wild Bill Melhourne Drill . If you want to get it happening in your actual golf stroke , you need Lag and Drag in both directions. Not so common anymore but it worked for Hogan , Nelson , Jones etc etc and when you listen carefully even Jack describes a sense of Lagging in his takeaway from Impact Fix !!!!! You dont have to be mid body hands , adjusted to sense this Lag in Startup.
Your giving yourself a "running start" with the left is trying to tell you something ! Something that you could easily over look with two hands attached . Try it out. Carry back is ok too obviously.
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