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Old 02-20-2008, 09:13 PM
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I recently read in the trackman newsletter that a positive angle of attack is better than 0 or negative. A very interesting article that seemed to say that we should be hitting up on the driver and not down. Has anyone else read this?
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:24 PM
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I did, thought it to be very interesting and contrary to what we, as TGM enthusiasts, believe.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:58 PM
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I recently read in the trackman newsletter that a positive angle of attack is better than 0 or negative. A very interesting article that seemed to say that we should be hitting up on the driver and not down. Has anyone else read this?
Do you have a link to the article or their data?
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:18 PM
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I have the pdf. Can I post it here or I'll email to you.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RickPinewild View Post
I recently read in the trackman newsletter that a positive angle of attack is better than 0 or negative. A very interesting article that seemed to say that we should be hitting up on the driver and not down. Has anyone else read this?
Be very careful with this one folks. The studies I have seen from Trackman may not be accurate because all it is saying is that with a 0 or 5 degree "upswing" the ball will go farther. However, they did not say what loft they were testing or if they were even using the same driver. It seemed to me that they were just creating launch angle.

The trackman is a very accurate machine and I like the fact that it can track the ball and the clubhead. I would like to see more testing with different driver lofts to see if swinging "up" is better or is more loft better.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:12 PM
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I don't need the article, but I appreciate the offer Rick. Golfgnome answered my lingering questions.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).

The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:39 AM
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Be very careful with this one folks. The studies I have seen from Trackman may not be accurate because all it is saying is that with a 0 or 5 degree "upswing" the ball will go farther. However, they did not say what loft they were testing or if they were even using the same driver. It seemed to me that they were just creating launch angle.

The trackman is a very accurate machine and I like the fact that it can track the ball and the clubhead. I would like to see more testing with different driver lofts to see if swinging "up" is better or is more loft better.

As usual, premier player-teacher-fitter Jeff Hull cuts right through the 'seems as if' that most of us have never even thought about.

No bias.

Just the facts.

Thanks, Jeff.

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Old 02-21-2008, 03:44 AM
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I read the article, and, according to trackman, the main problem with more loft on the clubhead is that it is also the main factor in the spin rate. So to reduce spin you need to go to a lower lofted clubface, but then need to do something in your swing to keep the launch angle high.

I allways thought it was funny how most LPGA players have very low lofted Drivers, even with there relatively low swing speeds. Seems like they all set up to hit up on the ball also.

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Old 02-21-2008, 08:56 AM
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This could prove interesting. Tom Wishon announced that they will be working with trackman in several areas. Hopefully there will be better info on the horizon regarding clubfitting.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:53 AM
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Most professional Long Drivers have been saying this for years actually...hitting up on the ball creates the most distance. Maybe a better way of saying this is that the clubhead is attacking the ball at an upward angle rather than the fact that you are trying to HIT UPWARD on the ball. Two very different things in my opinion.

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