[nevermind]

rwh are those models tgm correct? looks like a lot of axis tilt going on and not much right shoulder moving downplane.

fight the frustration and answer me "one" more question , i think im getting closer. when talking about moving down the turned shoulder plane, we're talking about only the right shoulder and the sweetspot, not the forearm/shaft? I think thats where most of my fog was being created.

So for a zero plane shift, the right shoulder and sweetpot will work up and down the turned shoulder plane (preferably), and the forearm/shaft will work up and down their own (elbow?) plane..?