LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - The Finish Swivel Thread: The Finish Swivel View Single Post #23 04-26-2006, 09:09 PM jim_0068 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: the cold midwest Posts: 675 Originally Posted by tongzilla Thanks Jim for providing information from your launch monitor experiments. A few queries if you don't mind. Can hitting the ball futher with this "over-roll" (Ben Doyle style) still produce a straight shot, or will it give the ball hook spin? I am one of the straightest hitters of the ball i know, so i have no problem hitting the ball as dead straight as possible with this 'over rolling' issue. In fact, despite what others may say, i can even FADE the ball with this type of "swivel." The key though is you have to draw a straight plane line. Start 'bending' that plane line out to the right and it will be FOOOOOOOOOORE LEFT! Quote: Also, TGM says there's no Compression Leakage (except Backspin) with Horizontal Hinging. Do you think this is also true if you over-roll? I'll admit i'm not physics guru, far from it. But all i know is that if you do it "by the book" there isn't as much "smash" as there is with supposed "over rolling." Email me @ koby12@gmail.com and i'll give you a link to a video that has pretty solid evidence. Quote: When you say you will hit the ball further, do you mean carry distance, or carry plus roll? Probably both. All i'm saying is that with the same amount of speed and "effort" the ball will have more ball speed with the "ben doyle" swivel style. Do i know why? No. Can i prove it scientifically? No. All i have is a pretty convincing video and my launch monitor numbers. Hope that helps __________________ I'm not a TGM or PGA certified Pro, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night jim_0068 View Public Profile Send a private message to jim_0068 Find all posts by jim_0068