[Daryl]

After watching Yoda's finish swivel video, i can say that the only difference between's "ben swivel" and "yoda's swivel" is that yoda is simply swiveling it back to the plane and STOPPING and letting the left wrist bend to the finish. Where as "ben's swivel" is swiveling it as much as the face will allow which would be looking at the ground.

Jim,

If there is enough time and sunshine next Thursday when we play, I'll show you the One and Only Super Duper Complete Hinge Action/Motion Finish Swivel Yoda Acid Test. Just need the Sun and about four clubs laid out on precise angles. There is more to it than the pictures can illustrate. Seeing it on the ground, club in your hand (similar to Ben in the sand) uncovers the illusions. Ted took photos of the dowel layouts and he may post them on the web-site someday.