[neil]

YODA ,Swivel is classed as hand motion ,but since the Old Waverly class where you spent so much time on my swivel(without finding it )I have since been "practising".I can feel the swivel much better if I think of my shoulder as a ball joint-no concious manipulation just thinking during prctice swing and start down waggle seems to work -If practice translates into play then I am almost playing "out there'-as apposed to "in here"!Any thoughts?