[12 piece bucket]

Just my perspective here. If I were Matthew I would take it back to the top and then stop there, take the left hand off the club and sense how well the right hand/forearm position support the loading motion. Then I would start at address and take the club back with the right hand only - to the top - and find where the best location for the hand and forearm would be for FULLY stopping that club- Is there a difference? Probably.

2nd - Although in the face on pictures that started this thread you might say that Matthew does have a "full" shoulder turn- to me it just doesn't look "right" or "full" to me. However, I'd guess that normally if you get the right hand and forearm supporting the load at the top- then it just requires more shoulder turn compared to Matthew's sequence, as a natural result of the right hand and forearm getting behind and FULLY supporting the load- otherwise it's my guess that at the top for Matthew "everything" i.e. powerpackage- hands and arms are "sliding" off. You support the load with the right hand and right forearm BUT you've got to have the body behind that - supporting that loading- the hand and forearm are "between" the clubshaft and the body (right shoulder)- that load is coming in supported by A) the Hand, B) the Right Forearm, C) the right shoulder- they feel as if they line up- Matthew "missed" the Right Shoulder-Body- it's not lining up or supporting the load- Hence- the Clubshaft, the Right Hand, the Right Forearm are "sliding off-line". My off the wall tip - to try for Matthew - if not real at least perceived would be to start at address with hands facing each other- then at the top with the left wrist slight cupped feeling- and looking- have the right wrist at 90 degrees (perpendicular) to the left wrist. Before anyone freaks out- that's a lesson tee thought- experiment- application- etc. and a possible X classification. You can actually twist the hands on the grip enough to accomplish that.

If they ever let me come to Cali . . . I gotta break bread with you man! (Or eat fish tacos or whatever y'all grub on out there).