[Sonic_Doom]

1. Can anyone show me where, in the book, the terminology 'start up swivel' is used???

If not, then please, lets not use it. Of course, it may be used, hence, my request for a reference.

2. By swinger, lets define.

True swinger - centrifugal force rules, including the squaring of the clubface.

'Swinger' - utilizes centrifugal force for power (loading, etc) but not necessarily alignment of the clubface, and in this case, adjustments may need to be made.

And again, start up swivel please.....

Great post, I'm foggy here as well (as others). I just finished the book and don't recall the start-up swivel. I posted a question in another thread on this subject. The nearest I could find to this idea was "fanning " of the forearm during start up. In my attempt to use the RFT I find that the face stays closed.

I think the question posed earlier might best solve the problem: What position does the face take with the shaft at horizontal, leading edge vertical to ground or is it parallel to (laying on)the inclined plane?

The answer could determine how much forearm rotation is needed during start up.

CW