[ejhong]

I am unable for whatever reason to access the picture you are referencing.

As I recall Jeff I believe stated that he lets the club define the location for full shots.

Basically the club head leading edge when parallel to the ground will define the forwarding leaning angle of the shaft. The angle then should extend up the shaft to the left shoulder in a straight line. The physical position of the hands will change from club a bit. As for the right wrist bend, having a flat left wrist, then the amount of bend becomes more a byproduct of the right elbow and right shoulder. Take your grip, flatten your left wrist. Now with the left arm extended in front of you, bend your right elbow, keeping the left wrist flat. If you bend the right elbow outward, it will pull the right shoulder out and increase the right wrist bend. If you bend the right elbow downward, the right shoulder goes down and outward, but the wrist will retain about the same amount of bend.

One factor in all this is the type grip you take, another is if you are swing(jeff) or hitting(ted) do to the stroke type employed.

What really defines the amount of right wrist bend with a flat wrist is the right elbow and right shoulder position and alignments.

Hope that makes sense.

I don't believe for full strokes Yoda has ever advocated changing the grip between clubs. It would require a different alignment/mechanic between clubs then. Not the simplest of techniques to employ IMO.

This is what I used to think and I used to check the leading edge of my clubface at the top of my backswing and see if it looked "flat" or not. Now, if my new conception is the correct one, it seems I was hurting myself by trying to "weaken" my grip for the shorter clubs. The flat look of the clubface at the top of my backswing should vary depending on what club I am hitting. Only with the driver should I see a position where the back of my left hand appears nearly in line with the face of the club at the top.

So my current thinking is that for shorter clubs, when viewed from face on, the left arm and clubshaft do not form a straight line at impact fix. However, I just realized that this fact does not require the destruction of the integrity of the left arm wedge since the grip is turned on the club a little bit and facing down the angle of approach. The angle between the left arm and clubshaft that is apparent from the face on view is because the wrist is in a level state and the hands are slightly turned rather than due to any unwanted arching of the left wrist.

For example, if a driver swing is struck at low point, the left arm will look like it is in line with the shaft when viewed from face on. However, if you viewed the left arm and clubshaft just prior to impact with the driver, you would see a little bit of an angle between the shaft and the left arm since the left arm is rolling a little at this point - from face on you are seeing a little bit of the proper left wedge angle caused by the left wrist being in a level condition. The hands at this slightly pre-impact position for the driver with the face open, are exactly what they should be for the impact position for a wedge. However, the wedge has a hook-face and so it is set square to the target. I hope this is not too confusing. Of course, I'm not sure if all this is correct or not, but it seems to feel right and make sense to me.

Can you see that image now? I tried changing it to a larger version.