[Hennybogan]

Killah . . . How do you do the greens? You section them off and use a level? Do you putt to or roll balls? How does the process work? Are you guys using this info on approach shots as well? Like if your dude puts hook putts better do you consider that from the fairway?

Thanks!

Beeeeee

Bucket,

I'll leave the first part for OK. We do use the info for the approach shots. But not in the way you asked. We don't look for right to left, but on severe greens we are going for uphill. We always have the slopes marked to have a better idea what the ball will do when it lands. Stop. Spin. Skip. We also give the kind of numbers we talked about in reference to a trap carry for tiers in the green

Westchester pins are my favorite. They have these tiny little tiers so you give numbers like: 78 front and 24--102 hole. It's 99 and 3. 106 backedge. Even with a sandwedge, the pro does not want to fly it up there and risk skipping it over and down the dropoff into the rough. So now he wants the number where it's flat just short of the ridge so he can try to skip it up with a low wedge. Say that number is 94. That's his target. Sometimes it skips perfect, other times it will catch the ridge and leave a 30 footer over the tier. Not the worst outcome.

We would do the same for a false front or a green that slopes toward you for part and then away. Very important to be on the right side of those slopes. All the info is used to define the target number to hit the shot. Some guys then feel that number while some would think "94."

I am now one of those number guys. I don't take it back this far or whatever. I just think 75 and swing. It's how I practice, too. Check with laser and dial it in. It does make it tough for me to play without a book or a laser as I sometimes have to do.