Lie Angles

[RickPinewild]

Martee: My comments are in larger font.
I understand Clubhead Droop, but isn't it true that the current day shaft, at least to hear the manufactures talk, have all but eliminated most of this? I don't know all the claims of shaft makers, but if the droop is affecting your lie angles, you can adjust for it.

Also isn't it true for Hitters, clubhead droop is smaller than for swingers?
This may also be true probably because of shaft flex, again, adjust it to suit you ball flight once you are swinging on the correct plane.

In addition what consideration is given to hitting the ball and having separation prior to the club coming into contact with the ground? This seems to increase the lattidute of clubhead lie range that would be acceptable. Your ball flight will also be a telltale sign of incorrect lie angles.
I don't see how kickpoint comes into the forumla for Lie Angle and haven't really seen anything by top clubmakers (though I have only read and studied a few) consider this to be part of the Lie Angle. Can you address this? I also have not seen any info regarding kick point and lie, bottom line is: adjust your lie to suit your ball flight once you have established a correct swing plane. Always start with your shortest clubs and work toward the longer ones. The shorter and stiffer the shaft, the less droop. There is no need to complicate this, simply spend the time to be sure all your clubs are working for you and not against you.