[grapegoat]

Sorry for the confusion, when i work with the dowels in the mirror i can maintain the left and right very well. when i put a club in my hands the club i loose the vertical only motion. Basically what ends up happening is the club gets underplane or behind me and the left wrist arches. The dowel in the ground part, I will make a good practice swing and then place a dowel, or driveway reflector in the ground just past my right foot by about 2 feet and inline with my heel. This gives me feedback when the club gets underplane or behind me. I will try to post a couple of images showing the problem here to clarify things.