LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Clubshaft "on plane" Thread: Clubshaft "on plane" View Single Post #18 06-05-2008, 07:16 PM Burner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: England Posts: 626 Originally Posted by Jeff Golfbulldog I don't have to attach the keyboard to a club to understand your concept of an "on-plane feeling". I have tried it with a standard golf club, and the "on-plane feeling" works very well. That's why I am so enamored by HK"s TGM-teaching. It offers a conceptual model that can help a beginner golfer stay "on plane" from an arbitrary (but extremely useful) HK perspective. My arguments about different golfers merely reflects the fact that different golfers use different definitions/concepts of "being on plane" and that a Sergio Garcia-style golfer (who drops the hands more per unit time relative to the amount of left arm rotation per unit time) may not be helped by trying to develop a "feeling" at PP#3 (that can be used to trace a straight plane line) while the hands are moving through the early-mid downswing. Jeff. Jeff, Homers intention, his gift to golfdom, was to provide the information and mechanical understanding necessary for golfers to be able to make an uncompensated golf stroke - a model of mechanical efficiency based on Physics and Geometry. Homer was a bright lad and readily understood that the making of such a golf stroke was not an easy matter, even for the very best. So, he continued to work for around another 28 years in order to catalogue the differences (individual compensations, if you like) that we golfing inadequates need to know in order for us to make as efficient a golf swing as we are capable of. Your efforts to complete your understanding of golfing mechanics are to be marveled at. The time you spend in this endeavour and your devotion to duty is almost beyond belief. (Do you get the time to eat, sleep, play golf even?) Nevertheless, I have to say that I, for one, find it more than slightly offensive that you persist in the introduction all sorts of variations of "golfer examples in action" into your arguments as grounds for your presumption that, somehow, Homer may just have got it all wrong and you will set us all to rights. A wise man listens Jeff and hears what is being said. Others just talk a lot and hear nothing. Sorry if this offends you (not my intention as you may come to realise) but it makes me feel a little better to get it off my chest rather than keep these feelings bottled up. Embrace the information Homer bequeathed to us and ask how ever many questions you must in order to gain an understanding of his work. Don't just chuck up bits and pieces willy nilly in order to prove that you are right in cases where you have clearly not grasped the concept at issue. That is doing yourself a disservice. __________________ IB "My only handicap is me!!!" Last edited by Burner : 06-05-2008 at 07:21 PM. Burner View Public Profile Send a private message to Burner Find all posts by Burner