LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - 4 Barrel Hitting Thread: 4 Barrel Hitting View Single Post #54 08-09-2009, 12:40 PM bioengine Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 62 Originally Posted by Daryl Bioengine, Don't come back to me with garbage research interpretation. "According to TGM"? Where in TGM does Homer tell you that TGM Terminology works with your Data? Your instruments may measure forces on your feet at release but do they tell you if the measured forces are caused by slapping vs. punching alignments? Ben Doyle states that Slapping is much more powerful than punching. He's been teaching TGM for 50 years. How many years have you taught TGM? Shouldn't you rephrase your statement "Even with my limited TGM knowledge, Lag sure looks like he's a swinger, but he says he's hitting, so he must be a hitter, because he says so." I don't know you or your teacher, I don't know Lagressure. But if you and he want to peddle this, (4 + 1 + (2+3) +4 + 1+ 5) then go ahead. But if you claim that this is consistent with TGM then I say you have both lost your minds. You guys are way off the 'Reservation' by re-defining TGM terminology to fit your own interpretation and agenda. That's not credible. Daryl, I'm not here to get into arguments with you. We can measure x,y and z forces. How much for is going at the ball, up and down and away and towards the body. We can pin point exactly at what point the club head begins to release. Can tell you linear speeds and angular speed as well at any point in the downswing and after impact. We can tell at what point you reached maximum linear and angular speed.Also both these speeds at impact. When the club accelerate/ decelerates at any given point. There are tons of guys on video who appear to be firing the hips first, although the data shows they fire the hands first. Do you know that impact and change of transition commencing the downswing can be in between frames so you can miss the transition. It's like a normal camera each time you capture a photo the shutter opens and shuts. The same occurs when you slow down peoples swing on video data is missing. 1/2 a frame is a ton of missing information. Do some research and you will find this to be accurate. My point is video does have illusions. And hey I put my hand up and say it's caught me out to. People send me video all the time asking me what I think of their swing. Hell I can't tell cause I know the illusions. Looking at movement patterns video can't tell you the real story. Daryl maybe on video this is what you see. Using biomechanics tells a different story. Say Hi to Ben, I respect Ben Doyle. Last edited by bioengine : 08-09-2009 at 12:43 PM. bioengine View Public Profile Send a private message to bioengine Find all posts by bioengine