LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - george knudson swing against a grid Thread: george knudson swing against a grid View Single Post #30 12-15-2009, 10:16 AM TeddyIrons Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 14 Originally Posted by O.B.Left Thats different for sure. An "active hand release" of number 2 anyways, is in the book by the way, see the Left Wrist Throw. Although perhaps this isnt what you are referring to. Didnt Knudson coin the expression "passive hands"? He certainly used the expression. In my lessons years ago with his George's assistant instructor, Norm Moot, it was all about moving the core which was around the chest area, the inside moving the outside, the pivot controlling the hands, balance, the finish position was key, dragging the right foot, shortish backswing. I've read this too about Knudson's passive hands. I've read Lag Erickson's point of view on this which is that firing the hands requires special training for most golfers. Passive hands is easier to master for the average golfer who does not have time to train for this, and perhaps this is who Knudson was targetting in his book. Knudson based a lot of his swing on Hogan who clearly stated that he wished he had 3 right hands - certainly sounds like a non-passive action there. If you fire your hands then you need a very strong pivot post-impact to prevent a hook. Hudson clearly swings hard left and not out to right field, which is the tendancy with the right arm hitting action. Originally Posted by okie I have messed with trying to understand Lag Erickson's point of view. I may be way off but any time there is a firing of the hands is that not the pressure felt by the pressure points in the hands that the pivot is creating? His concept of hitting (I think) is the idea of resisting CF well past impact (the mysterious 5th accumulator...which does meet Homer's qualification of an accumulator) I think you do this by preserving the bend in your right elbow. Straightening the right arm too early causes the clubface to flash closed etc. Perhaps it is the season but I am weary of TGM Wars. Those that take the book literally maintain Homer's ideas as ideal as it relates to the mechanical advantage. It is a pity Lag never came to LBG to spar. I think the hands can be passive or they can be trained to fire. I don't wish to try to interpret another golfer's training or intentions, so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I think, however, that when you swing on a tighter circle and you fire the hands from the last parallel position before impact, you are ensuring that you have acceleration into impact, and hence lag pressure. Lag explains this much better than I of course and his posts on the matter can be found on other forums. TeddyIrons View Public Profile Send a private message to TeddyIrons Find all posts by TeddyIrons