[EdZ]

For a hands manipulated swinger, this would be alright, but a true swinger really needs the benefit of the standard wrist action. It allows the 'roll' to be smooth, at the same RPM's - unlike the hands manipulated swinger, where the roll must be 'timed'

In fact, the more I add startup swivel into my motion, the easier I find it is to have a smooth release - as long as I 'start' the roll on the downswing, CF takes over and does the rest.

The more you 'give up control to gain control', the closer to toe up/toe up you will be. Let the physics of the swinging club help you!