LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Tracing the plane line Thread: Tracing the plane line View Single Post #30 12-24-2009, 03:51 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by Yoda The true Homer Kelley Hip "slide" is very misunderstood. A major part of the problem is of his own doing: In the 6th edition, he changed the definition of Slide Hip Turn from 'Slide with no appreciable Turn' to 'Slide with delayed Turn'. Unfortunately, he did not change the illustrating photos 10-14-B #1 and #2 (hence, their obvious "no Turn" on either the Backstroke or Downstroke). He also failed to change the Shift/Turn constraints under Component #14 in the Chapter 11 summary. Then, some 25 years later, we get the post-humously published 7th edition. Not only did it fail to correct these oversights, it also listed the Slide Hip Turn as the selected Variation of Component #14 in both Basic Stroke Patterns (12-1-0 and 12-2-0). So now, we have a new generation of TGMers who must come to grips with the radical 'Slide' photos being 'what the TGM stroke looks like'. Not to mention that the Slide Hip Turn (or even the Standard and Delayed Hip Turns) is incompatible with the also new Rotated Shoulder Turn Variation as Component #13. Which, itself, is incompatible with both the Standard Pivot (listed Component #12) and the Line Delivery Path (listed Component #23). So, where were we now? Ah, yes: Given the current state of published affairs, what is the correct interpretation of the Downstroke Slide Hip Turn? Leaving your Right Hip in its Backstroke Turn, just get your weight back to your left side, then . . . Turn! I'd like to nominate for inclusion in the LBG Hall of Fame in the " Yoda's all time best posts" category of which there are many. I have filed it to my personal LBG file with exclamation marks. Regards Ob PS Yoda , what notations would you recommend we make to our 6th or 7th editions in this regard? Last edited by O.B.Left : 12-24-2009 at 04:00 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left