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I will try to get some pics up.

Yoda I cannot get fully to the "gimme five" position. If (thumb to pinkie) 9o'clock --- 3o'clock is gimme five, i can get to about 10.30 --- 4.30.

Have been reading many threads on turning, rolling, the three swivels and hinging... it's safe to say that there is a fair chunk of incubating to be done by yours truly. Look out for some question in the Basics section in a few days, or weeks, actually dont hold your breath. Ive been reading these forums for a year and am still surrounded by fog.. the snail wins the race right... right <insert desperate looking smilie>

thanks


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