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Old 03-26-2010, 10:40 AM
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I feel elated and sad at the same time



I was looking at the golfingmachinist.com I noticed a deep back knee bump. I went to youtube and looked at Nicklaus/Watson/Nelson et.al.
I slowly practiced my trail arm thrust from the elbow as if I wanted to hit a low drive or ram my frozen impact hands straight into the ground.

Because of my tilt of a longer back leg, I have to bump my back knee forward to get down to the ball, all the time, which tips my front knee in, all the time, which allows me to squeeze that ball into the ground with real power.

I feel like an idiot because I thought all the power was coming from the weight of my shoulder tilt and right elbow smash down!


Sorry, OB for pulling at a thread and missing the whole cloth!


Patrick
Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Hey Partick

The success you are seeing is as a result of a better clubhead orbit Id say. Your geometry is getting better. You arent Steering the club straight down the target line etc. And your questions are really good ones too as this geometry is pretty confusing unless you are so inclined. Even then it takes some work to see how it isnt what you first think it should be. Linear Force. 2-C-0 is a great study in how to apply force to golf ball with a whirling and non linear, circular motion. I think all the geometry is extrapolated from 2-C-0 solution. We try to make it Linear (Steering) but to our own detriment cause it cant be, for full compression anyways. Not for this side on stick and ball game of ours. Linear force for low compression works though, ask any hacker (driver) or any tour pro (lob shot). See 2-C-3.

Kev will come in here and knock this one otta the park but in the mean time here's a couple of things to think about.

-given the inclined plane, for balls played back of low point a straight line or a curve drawn from impact to separation will point towards the plane line, your "cross line" if you will. See 2-C-1 #2B. Not to be mistaken with a Cross Line Stroke (a plane line that points out to right field), its an inside out Delivery Line of the Clubhead for a straight plane line. This curve is relates to the concept of Tracing, the straight line to Covering. 2-J-3 (but if you read this your head will explode).

- The closer the balls position gets to low point the less the cross line nature of this inside out, Clubhead Delivery Line. So Hogan hit the inside aft of the ball, yes , but the point of contact changed, got closer to the back of the ball as the ball position approached low point. The guys who tee a ball up in front of Low Point will have the curve pointing away from the plane line as the clubhead moves up and in. Which you can also see in that diagram.

-For swingers or hitters using the Arc of Approach the Clubhead blur can be seen by the eye , during address routine waggles (8-0) and during the actual strike to travel the Inside Outside curve that connects these same two points. Impact and Low point. A great thing with which to wage war against Steering. 3-F-7-A. Cause it aint straight at the hole. Unless you are trying to hit a floater, lob shot. See diagram 2-C-3 #2 The Lob Shot . No (or very little) compression.

- The Machine 1-L-15 "The club starts up-and-in after Low Point but the thrust continues down plane during Follow Through". Meaning that though the clubshaft (or pp#3) traces the straight line Plane Line and the clubhead moves up and in post low point, the thrust of the right arm, be it passive as in Swinging or Active as in Hitting continues down plane and therefor out towards the plane line until the right arm is straight. Follow Through. This is "going all the way down" to my mind. So thrust is cross line and the delivery line of the clubhead and the delivery line of the hands is inside out. Getting to Both ARms Straight completes the Orbit and the ball really likes that. Compression plus. A non bent plane line.

-Hitting makes this cross line thrust of the right arm and getting to both arms straight more apparent. The fact you say Yoda looked like he was extending his right arm in a linear way suggests Hitting to me. This would be Push Basic 10-3-C Major Basic Stroke. A hitting procedure but for short shots only. Long shots having a different arm motion employing a non linear, fanning and bending Right Arm Motion. I dont know what film you were looking at but if it is Alignment Golf with VJ Trolio. From memory Id say VJ was demonstrating Push Basic, but not Lynn. There is a little fanning in there I believe.

-Which brings me a point I got stuck on and maybe you are too, if I read you correctly. I mistakenly tried to make all hitting shots a linear Push Basic type deal which set me back some. See the Major and Minor Strokes 10-3. The Arm Motion when seen in isolation changes as the stoke lengthens. For longer shots you must fan and bend the right arm, like a side arm throw , like skipping a stone or maybe a slightly more linear fish spearing. The Hitter with a Punch 10-3-A Elbow, the Swingers Pitch 10-3-B Elbow. See this video here of Yoda and watch the right arm only motion he displays towards the end of it. He maybe wasnt expecting us to look at this microscopically or anything but it sure isnt a Push Basic linear motion for hitting is it? No Sir.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p....-Hitting.html
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