[innercityteacher]

Ok. Got you. Sorry. Words, they some times fail us in that when we think we are talking about the same thing , we often arent. For this reason Homer really wanted us to stick to his definitions lest we enter the tower of babble. You'd be crazy to take the book of riddles into the tower of babble wouldnt you? Its hard enough to comprehend or discuss already.

This is my problem since I form my own construct and then find the author's/curricula's point of view. I need to start using the language, OB. The good news ia that when I understand a concept, I really can describe it to lots of people and put it into practice.[/color]

So to bring this into Homer vocabulary , we must adhere to Geometry of the Circle. Center, Radius, Circumference , chords, tangents etc. The Circle itself represents the clubhead Line of flight and lies on the Inclined Plane. It is two dimensional! It must be both to lie flat on a plane and for the Radius (the clubshaft or sweetspot plane more correctly ) to point at a Straight Line Base Line.


LOL. I have been visualizing a tilted circle now for 10 days in a soft blue color. I started with Yoda's remark about imagining a straight line extending to infinity. One day on the range the inclined plane of the clubshaft sortof just jumped out! A couple of days later, I figured out that the right forearm lays on the inclined plane and extends forward past impact down the infinite blue line known as the impact line. Most of the time, my impact line is my target line though I am growing more aware of the problems with that. That was very comforting. I feel that my golf swing is logical, now.


It would be excellent if the forum could run a margin down each page that could show "The Geometry of the Circle" which Kevin was so generous in sharing with me. People need to stare at that while talking about it. I also think this forun should have a way for people to voluntarily pay when good advice is given. Thanks to this advice you all have shared, I posted two 44's and a 43 the other day on top-dressed greens and swampy fairways counting every stroke. The technology exists at "JustAsk.com," and I paid some KIA mechanic $25 for helping me decide to add antifreeze to my radiator after he dignosed my car's problem. It took 15 minutes during my lunch break and he saved me at least $100 dollars since the car was losing power. The weather changes were affecting the fluid levels.I used Paypal and the info was sent to my Blackberry.[/color]

Which it must. Steering misdirects the clubhead towards the target, making the Orbit 3 dimensional , bending the plane line. Like the circling satellite , once the orbit is disturbed , disaster awaits. I think your great results , after getting to Both Arms Straight could very well be the product of an undisturbed, 2 dimensional orbit. Straight line plan line. One of the Three Imperatives, check it off. To go all the way down plane to Low Point, to keep on thrusting towards the plane line till the right arm is straight makes Steering the clubhead anyways, impossible. Steering the clubhead when viewed on the Geometry of the Circle shows the clubhead going down plane and therefore out given any angle to the Inclined Plane but then veering prematurely along a chord, a Target Line prior to low point.


I simply rest my right shoulder on the inclined plane and turn the shoulder up plane or pull it with the elbow uplane. The inclined plane helped me discover I had too much weight on the balls of my feet. By monitoring the balance of the club I could feel the club get very light on the way up plane while rotating and my weight wanted to go to my heels. At the hitting position is where I have/or where we all have some choices to make. And this is where I need to spend more time on the range and with the TGM book.

1)Bumping my right hip or right knee parallel to the impact line allows my back shoulder to ride down the inclined plane and I feel the club accelerate down, out, forward and up, in and back. I think this is a swing which is fine. I like to use this to put the ball high into the air. It is very simple and powerful. It just doesn't do many tricks!

2) Driving my right/back elbow down to the ball "quarters" the orbit and circumference. The right elbow feels to create a shortcut down the plane/orbit/circumfernce and looks like a construction of a diamond or triangle face on if I ignore the true curve and just see the "elbow secant or ray." When my elbow zips down the elbow secant like a snowboarder down a mountain, I can make that ball do low, medium, and high trajectories aided by the clubface (left hand) when necessary.

3) My right arm has its own secant or should it be my right pp#3? I think one end of the secant can be the ball for a pp#3 ray or secant. I think that is the sweetspot. I have also been pointing the ray along the impact line for real zip. I bump my knees and fire or "ride the ray." I need more time on the range on this.[/color]



I dream of a golf world where for decades hackers the world over had cried "Keep your club head going down" instead of the usual free advice. I love this!

I like your "trajectory" observations. This relates to the Plane Angle, The Angle of Attack see 2-C-1 #2B and also the Divergent Vectors of 2-N-1. Generally speaking more pivot means more Horizontal , turning motion. Better suited to Tracing, ARc of Approach etc. The Right Arm itself is subject to the forces of the coming on stream pivot and so it must adjust to maintain its on the inclined plane nature and ability to Trace. See Pivot in the Glossary. This is Hands to Pivot to my mind as opposed to an idea that the Hands must proceed the pivot sequentially or something. They just direct that's all. Like raising a coffee to your mouth while the taxi driver takes a corner at high speed. The hands adjust quite nicely despite the introduction of forces with contrary vectors. The Hands net out on plane. Unless the forces are too much and too divergent, then you have a mess to clean up. In the cab or on the course. Bent Plane Line or coffee on your dress shirt. I'll need more time here to unpack this.I have to focus on "Straight line plane line.." I think that is the elbow/arm/pp#3 parallel secants/rays.


The Neeman video is great. 12-5-0 comes alive and unplugged at one point there too. When you said linear and punch I thought you were talking hitting chipping, Push Basic, lawn mower cord pulling, elbow sawing or whatever. Which is not on display in that particular video. No Sir. Not displayed in any video by Yoda personally, I don't believe. Trying to remember. Its a catalogues procedure , for short shots , not long. Glad to hear you are fanning and bending your right arm then. You avoided my Hitting stumbling block. [color="Blue"]The fanning/bending allows the club to ride along it's designed plane most effectively with the back hip being pushed out of the way. Pushing the hip out of the way helps the efficient process repeat going down plane and then around.




Id say you can "punch" a shot either Hitting or Swinging although we commonly associate it with Hitting. If you feel better punching your way around the course then go for it. To me its sort of a more driving, staccato, compact motion normally with the ball played back a tad , which given the geometry of the circle means there'll be more turf taken post impact as you make it all the way down to low point. More inside out to the clubheads Delivery Line then too. Trevino comes to mind. He Angled Hinged it too. Normally fades resulting with a push tendency. Need to rotate the clubface in the grip maybe. If it seems like you are Covering a straight line out to right field dont get gun shy, you're probably Hitting using the Angle of Approach. A true cross line stroke for a straight shot. 2-J-3 But dont read that or you'll go insane. Wait a bit.

You've been at TGM for what like a month or two now? Wow.

Thanks, again, OB, everyone on this site. It is such a great game and holds great promise for those who can lear and teach it effectively for our culture, IMHNO (N=neophyte). Good golfing this weekend to all, esp to our armed forces everywhere!

Patrick