[tim chapman]

I can post a video so you can hear it. All I can say is that the Ball comes off like a rocket with hardly any effort.

thank you Daryl, the link works, very interesting to see how on plane the right forearm (i'm guessing from how he tucks the elbow in) is at start up, i also notice his flat right wrist & bent left.

It is a pretty distinctive swing motion, I will be seeing if i can replicate it & where it leads, does your swing look like his ?

appreciate it