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thank you Daryl, the link works, very interesting to see how on plane the right forearm (i'm guessing from how he tucks the elbow in) is at start up, i also notice his flat right wrist & bent left.

It is a pretty distinctive swing motion, I will be seeing if i can replicate it & where it leads, does your swing look like his ?

appreciate it

You probably mean flat left wrist (FLW) and bent right wrist (BRW).