LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Spine Angle Thread: Spine Angle View Single Post #10 06-02-2011, 01:25 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by innercityteacher I forgot to mention the Right Thumb's "off the handle v to the shoulder position." CC loved 'shrooms but that Right Thumb allows the PP # 3 to crush the Base Line of the Plane and the ball sitting on it! Ic T Yes the #3pp , the entire Right Foream Flying Wedge (which near Impact has rotated onto the Inclined Plane too) and for some the Right Shoulder crush the Aiming Point which in on the Arc of Approach. Relevant to this discussion, the glossary's definition of the Pivot.....(its role for the TGM golfer given independent arm and pivot motion) Quote: PIVOT Example -revolving door. Mechanical -That motion of the body moving around a center point. Golf- A multiple universal-joint assembly between the Stationary Head and the Stationary Feet holding the Clubshaft "On Plane" by positioning and adjusting the Lever Assembly , through the #3 Accumulator , as directed by the Right Forearm. Homer said " Stationary Head" but I believe it could read "Stationary PIvot Center" which gives you options other than the head literally speaking. I love the way this definition establishes a hierarchy between Pivot and Right Forearm. Homer said we'd all feel like we were tossing a ball. Dont get me wrong the Pivot is important, it is Zone 1 after all. But the pitcher on the mound is not rifling a fast ball with his pivot alone. He probably isnt thinking about his pivot, after training. YOu dont say "what a pivot on that guy", you say "what an arm on that son of a..." etc. This means that (with the exception of Startdown) the Shoulders can travel in a different direction than the Hands. Which sounds complicated, but we do it all the time , all day long. We are "wired" to do so. Putting your thoughts on your Pivot messes things up (although its necessary when specifically training your pivot). All you need to do is to take your bent right hand to right shoulder high.........like you were reaching for something. If you can establish a TSP at Top then you wont need to re arrange things (shift planes) so the Pivot (the Right Shoulder) can pull the Hands downplane in Startdown with the #4 still fully loaded......delayed Release, Delivery of the Power Package to its Release Point. Its this last point that everyone tries to manage I think. But I believe you can do it effectively , easily without a significant Plane Shift or an uncomfortably high Shoulder Turn. Without strapping your arms to your chest. Homer's Standard Shoulder Turn seems odd at first but its brilliant. With independent arm and pivot motion ,your arms can flow freely from the body , freewheeling AND Aligned even when the Body is pulling them down in Startdown (given a TSP). Even if you are non Auto Release Throw and Hand manipulating etc. Im not just talking passive wrists , fully auto, Swinging here. The baseball pitchers right arm is thrown and his hand manipulation creates the curve ......... His pivot accelerates his arm and then his arm accelerates even more away from his body. Last edited by O.B.Left : 06-02-2011 at 05:49 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left