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Gotcha. I don't see a face open to target at impact as weak. Big old bombing draws touch the ball with open faces. With that being said, I would agree with you that better players aren't hitting wedges with open faces and rotating to straighten the "push". I see it as only getting pushed if you catch the inside of the ball, and when better players hit short irons, they hit down and control trajectory and spin.........and they swing left of target nearly always to produce this and balance out the angle of attack, because alot of down and right leads to the dirty "s" word!

Yup agreed but if Im understanding the procedure above correctly the face is opened to the plane line. In the draw scenario you describe the face is closed to the plane line (but open to the target) .... a nuked , low lofted , draw shot resulting.

Going back to the video's logic if you were to keep rolling the face open to the plane line you could lay the club right on its back like for a lob shot say. Turn your 60 degree lob wedge into an 80 degree or whatever.

I know thats not the way the video describes things as its not a cut shot procedure (using common golf speak) but you are adding some loft when the face is open to the plane. To me it sounds like taking a straight push shot and rotating the plane so you hit the push shot at the hole. A floater depending on how much loft you've added.

Maybe the Arcs curve is so slight that the amount of opening is slight and the whole thing is negligible ? The hula hoop exaggerates things as the scale is so wrong. I dunno.

Nice talking to you JT.