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Old 01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
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Thanks for the questions. I'm trying to keep my posts above O.B. Left. He seems to be gaining on me.

Originally Posted by JTillery View Post
There is no doubt that trackman should be used as a tool and not the doctor. People that use it to attack folks are as in the wrong as people that think it's useless or a symbol of evil.

Daryl, I do have a few questions for you: Please keep in mind Im not trying to attack or debunk, I have my opinions and beliefs, you have yours....that's fine. Im genuinely interested in your answers.

(1) Do you think there is one straight correct plane for all clubs after only a minor change in ball position through the bag?
Not at all.

Originally Posted by JTillery View Post
(2) Why do golf balls do different things when the same club is hit more and less down on with the same clubface?
The Right Forearm Angle of Approach is 3 dimensional. Because of this, any Change in Angle of Approach will change the Angle of Attack and a change in Angle of Attack will change the Angle of Approach unless you move the ball directly along the 3 dimensional path. If you don’t move the ball directly along this path, then a straight line of compression cannot be achieved and unless it was intentional then you’ll pay the price. Unfortunately, as history demonstrates, you will not get knowledge in return for suffering. You will not learn from your mistakes.

Originally Posted by JTillery View Post
(3) Do you see guys on tv all swinging straight?, and if not, are they wrong or at least inefficient?
You won’t post scores low enough to compete if you bend the Plane Line. Do you mean Parallel Plane and Target Lines? I think that most of the greatest Players that ever lived did not use parallel Plane and Target Lines.

Originally Posted by JTillery View Post
(4) How thick is the correct plane? If my analyzing software draws lines that are twice as thick as yours, do they still count? 3x? How many clubshaft widths could fit in one plane before it's off plane?
Thickness is not a Plane dimension.

Originally Posted by JTillery View Post
(5) If a certain attack angle creates a certain path and shot, but you want to alter the shot, and rotate the whole plane line to do so........doesn't that change the attack angle AGAIN? Wouldn't we end up continuously rotating around in a circle?
If, when you rotated the Plane line, you relocated the ball the same distance behind Low-Point, then Angle of Attack and Approach won't be altered. Then, all that remains, is the change in divergence between Plane and Target Lines. IMHO, this is how a True Swinger should approach curving the Path of the Ball (because a True Swinger always uses the same Right Forearm Angle of Approach). So, a True Swinger would rotate Plane and Target Lines to create a divergence, while a Hands Manipulated Swinger would move the ball, one way only (such as moving the ball back on the plane-line without changing the Plane Angle (actually, it simultaneously Flattens the Plane Angle (increases Angle of Approach) and Steepens the Angle of Attack)), and thereby, creates the divergence by changing the relationship between Angle of Attack and Approach. Fades and Draws for True Swingers and Hooks and Slices for Hands Manipulated Swingers. BUT, and this is very critical for you to understand, that both procedures are On-Line. Both, the Hands Manipulated and True Swingers are always On-Plane, never crossing the Line by trying to Swing Inside-out or Outside-in. In other words - in simple terms - never create a Plane Line to the Left of Target and Swing to the Right of Target - that would be crazy.

I wonder if any of this is in the "Trackman User Manual"?
All of it is in the little Yellow Book.
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