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Old 01-24-2012, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JTillery View Post
@Daryl - Ok so thickness isn't a dimension of plane......so if my grip points at baseline its on plane. If it was a big old fat club id have alot more tolerance then right? If my shaft and grip were pencil then I guess it'd be really hard to be on plane!!!! So its exactly the width of a clubshaft? Who decided that!?? There is no width as a dimension? Then why do you draw a line, how can you illustrate it?
The line is a representation. Same as when you draw a square with a paint brush and claim the corners to be 90 degrees. But if you must know his name, I think his name was "Bob".

Originally Posted by JTillery View Post
You'll have to gimme that deal one more time on how to rotate the whole plane left without increasing angle of attack? If I swing down 60 degrees, then change nothing but rotate the plane line, Im coming in at more than 60 degrees from the balls perspective ....???
Ok, but please understand that I'm telling you something that "appears" to contradict HK's "Swingers" procedure. But I assure you that it doesn't. I outlined the answer below, but bear with me a moment to explain something that has a very direct effect and HK assumes that YOU are completely aware of this. Anytime you move the Ball aft of Low-point, YOU MUST adjust your Plane Angle (not direction) so that the Orbiting Clubhead will intersect the ball at its new location. So, if you move the ball aft, then the Plane Angle must be "Steepened" and if you move it forward again, then you must "Flatten" the Plane Angle.

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When the Ball is positioned at the Low Point, the two Plane Lines combine as one, but as the Ball is moved toward the Right Foot, these lines appear farther apart and the Angle of Approach becomes wider. Then, the steeper the Plane Angle (10-6), the steeper the Angle of Attack (2-N-1), the higher the trajectory and the deeper the Divot (7-6). So, Ball Location determines the Angle of Approach (2-J-3), making the Forearm motion three dimensional (2-C-0).
HK referenced 10-6 in the above quote because he wants you to steepen the Plane Angle by tilting the Plane from it's Plane Angle Reference Point. Turned Shoulder Plane Swingers will steepen the Plane more than an Elbow Plane Swinger.

So, when HK says to move the Ball "Aft" he is assuming that you understand that the Ball will no longer rest on the existing Plane line, but rather on the new Plane Line (closer to your feet) because YOU Steepened the Plane Angle. If the Ball was moved 3" back on the existing Plane Line, then you will "Miss the Ball" because it no longer intersects the Clubhead Orbit (unless you make a postural change).

Set-up and hit a straight shot at the Target. Then, set-up and hit a straight shot 20 yards left of Target. Then, Set-up to hit a straight shot 20 yards left of the Target but rotate the shaft/clubface in your hands clockwise. HK wants you to move the Ball Forward or Aft rather than rotate the Grip because moving the Ball aft 1" is easier than rotating the Grip 1/2 of 1 degree. However, in his procedure, he assumes that you won't change the Angle of Approach although most everyone does.


Originally Posted by JTillery View Post
Finally, tell me how the "BLUR" isn't indicative of 3D path?
It is, but is it indicative of equal dimensions down, out and forward simultaneously?
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