[HungryBear]

I am considering , when I started this thread, getting the shoulders free to do what they seem to do best- turn around the spine and transmit energy to and as part of the power package- pivot.

The shoulders-full stroke- turn 100 + degrees top to impact and another 100 + to finish. The #4 is maybe 45 degrees top to followthrough.

I am trying to stay away from a new "trick" or compensation for every stroke variation by getting the choulders on track.

hb

CORRECTION- The shoulder turn is not as I stated- the shoulders turn is only about 50 deg. to the next leading/lagging component-the hips. I should have said the pivot -including the shoulders is 110 +/- deg top to impact. the #4 accumulator is limited by by checkrein to about 45 deg. (from the shoulder) which is the range of #4 accumulator.