As an outsider as well as a fan of Homer Kelley’s work, I really enjoy all those great jobs from A.I.s
I viewed that video, but I think that is a sad one. IMO, a sad day for “TGM”
BTW, this topic is ode to MR. Homer Kelley, i will say as self-taught hacker like me can really play like a PRO with the help of wonderful TGM book. Shot 83 yesterday with concepts of RFT allowing the pivot to come along, up the plane and down the plane, stationary head... Mr. Homer and LBG.
As a result of being naive, for some reason I do not see 2 websites divided. I see 2 very good people who are both outstanding golf teachers trying to help hackers like me play better golf. I see one Golfing Machine.
KnighT,
Thank you for your many supporting comments. LynnBlakeGolf.com is a team effort, and we work very hard to deliver information you find intellectually stimulating and useful to your game.
Regarding your quote above, as you visit the "2 sites," you may well be seeing, as you say, "two outstanding golf teachers trying to help hackers play better golf." Unfortunately...
You are also seeing one of those "outstanding golf teachers" doing his dead-level best to discredit the other (namely, me).
He does it in person.
He does it in print.
And he does it in video.
That's pretty well hitting on all cylinders, don't you think?
Now, lest I begin to feel 'special,' I am compelled to admit that he also spends a great deal of time 'grading' and discrediting other "outstanding golf teachers" as well. In fact, there are very few instructors of note that have not found themselves between his cross-hairs. By his own appointment, he serves as judge, jury and executioner of many of the game's greatest teaching talents. Thank goodness we have someone of his unique abilities to assume this thankless task!
Why, just yesterday, for example, in the thread on his site that is currently trashing teaching professionals Andy Plummer and Mike Bennett, two of the nicest guys you'll ever meet and true emerging talents, he wrote:
"But if they teach someone something I think is fishy, sorry...I'll let 'em know right here."
Thank you, Brian. We needed that! We need to know that these top-flight teachers with a growing stable of the world's best players are, in fact, mere mortals.
-- That they are flawed and unworthy of the heights they have attained.
-- That they can't 'get away with it' on your watch.
-- That they are no better than you! In fact, as you have said many times, they are not nearly as good as you.
They need to know that.
And your readers need to know that.
Most of all, you need to know that.
And since nobody else is saying it -- - you do. Cool. It's a free country, and it's your website to do with as you please. As you have also told us many times.
Actually, KnighT, despite our woeful inadequacies, I know that Brian wants only the best for the rest of us golf teachers. Particularly those who seem to making some progress. In fact, on the Plummer and Bennett thread, when a poster had the timerity to defend these new-found targets, he was quickly put straight as to the rewards of a public pilloring on his site:
"Maybe you'll realize that your guys might benefit from some honest analysis."
Gee, I feel better already.
To date, his venom has always been in direct proportion to the teacher's standing in the national Top Teacher lists. The higher the standing, the greater the vitriolic bombast.
Except for me, of course. Lowly as I may be, I seem to warrant special attention.
However, what others think and do is out of your control. Please continue competing with yourself, and not others. Look at the great community gathered around you! I am sure Homer would have been proud of the way you have carried on the TGM legacy, and continue to reach out to players of all levels all over the globe.
This is a great place, with an outstanding group of contributors. Please don't let the potshots from the cheap seats get you down.
UPP in still too cold to play Ohio
ps. I also nominate your previous post for most outstanding use of icons!
Please don't let the potshots from the cheap seats get you down.
Popshots aimed directly at LBG . . . but Homer Kelley takes the bullets.
First shot . . . 1st Essential DOA
Second shot . . . Tripod takes a cap in datazz
Third shot . . . poor some beer on the curb for the 1st Imperative
Fouth shot . . . dirt nap for Extensor Action
Fifth shot . . . kiss the wife and kids for Angle of Approach Procedure
Sixth shot . . . why? why? why? Magic of the Right Forearm
Seventh shot . . . Delayed Pivot keep it real.
Other than that little bit of stuff . . . the Book's awight.
Oh . . . and the pulled the Maximum Participation Pattern from the grave. Up from the grave he arose!!!!!
Grap sodeez and moonpies! Biscuits and tenderloin!
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
Lets drop it. This isn't even half the story about what went on behind the scenes. We are here to study the Golfing Machine. The same book Yoda was taught from by Homer Kelley and teaches to all of us, even lurkers that use this remarkable book to their advantage.
Bucket - it started with the directions the grooves face after hinge action- went to ball positions, what frozen means to the right wrist, tripod. I'm sure I missed a few. Lynn provided the Homer Kelley answer- the TGM answer or description. Are the HK answers the right one? Well- it's his book. Are we allowed to challenge? Positively- that’s how we learn. Do you have to accept the answer- Nope.
But you don’t trash your friends or plot against them over such things. That's just BS.
Are the HK answers the right one? Well- it's his book. Are we allowed to challenge? Positively- that’s how we learn. Do you have to accept the answer- Nope.
Witcha . . . I don't have a problem with people saying Homer was wrong, Lynn was wrong, Festus was wrong, Barney was wrong, Elmo was wrong, Goober was wrong, Gomer was wrong, Beavis was wrong . . . we can ALL be wrong.
My issue is with people who obfuscate (that's right . . . ) . . . Mr. Kelley spoke and Mr. Kelley wrote. And some think THEY can spoke and wrote for Mr. Kelley . . . and that there can't stand. Some want to defend AI's and that's just fine . . . but WHO is charged with defending Mr. K? Huh? What?
Witcha . . . I don't have a problem with people saying Homer was wrong, Lynn was wrong, Festus was wrong, Barney was wrong, Elmo was wrong, Goober was wrong, Gomer was wrong, Beavis was wrong . . . we can ALL be wrong.
My issue is with people who obfuscate (that's right . . . ) . . . Mr. Kelley spoke and Mr. Kelley wrote. And some think THEY can spoke and wrote for Mr. Kelley . . . and that there can't stand. Some want to defend AI's and that's just fine . . . but WHO is charged with defending Mr. K? Huh? What?
Beavis wrong?????????? You better back that up boy!