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Old 05-21-2009, 07:36 AM
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The Ying and Yang, the Right Elbow and Hands:

The Hands feel Alignments, and subordinate all components of the Golf Stroke to its command for performing one single imperative; Trace the Plane Line. The Hands sense the Planes angle and Direction and of the two, the direction is more important. The Hands feel only a straight Path to the Plane Line, not curved or angled. Deviation from that straight path, such as plane Shifts Up or Down, forces the Hands to comply with Pivot Positions rather than the Pivot Components complying with the Hands Alignments. The Hands will gladly pass out assignments to the Pivot rather than be thrown around and told to “hang-on”. Geometry over Physics.

The Path and location that the Right Elbow travels, determines The Path and location that the Hands travel. If the Right Elbow truly controls all three elements of a three-dimensional impact, then harnessing the Right Elbow is essential to controlling the Golf Ball. We have three tools at our disposal, which together allow the Hands control of the Right Elbow. “The Magic of the Right Forearm”, “The Right Forearm Flying Wedge” and “Extensor Action”.

Short Swings such as Basic Motion, Chips and Putts, require the Hands to Control the Right Elbow and Arms. Longer Swings draw more Components into Motion and Action and thus, more Components and Actions for the Hands to Control.
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:44 AM
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Hi BTS,

The Ying and Yang, the Right Elbow and Hands:

The Hands feel Alignments, and subordinate all components of the Golf Stroke to its command for performing one single imperative; Trace the Plane Line. The Hands sense the Planes angle and Direction and of the two, the direction is more important. The Hands feel only a straight Path to the Plane Line, not curved or angled. Deviation from that straight path, such as plane Shifts Up or Down, forces the Hands to comply with Pivot Positions rather than the Pivot Components complying with the Hands Alignments. The Hands will gladly pass out assignments to the Pivot rather than be thrown around and told to “hang-on”. Geometry over Physics.

The Path and location that the Right Elbow travels, determines The Path and location that the Hands travel. If the Right Elbow truly controls all three elements of a three-dimensional impact, then harnessing the Right Elbow is essential to controlling the Golf Ball. We have three tools at our disposal, which together allow the Hands control of the Right Elbow. “The Magic of the Right Forearm”, “The Right Forearm Flying Wedge” and “Extensor Action”.

Short Swings such as Basic Motion, Chips and Putts, require the Hands to Control the Right Elbow and Arms. Longer Swings draw more Components into Motion and Action and thus, more Components and Actions for the Hands to Control.
D . . . agree with you here to a point . . . BUT the right arm IS connected to the right shoulder. Shoulder Motion, Hip Action, Knee Action, Axis Tilt all play a BIG role in the Hand Path components and On-Plane or Off-Plane alignments . . . In turn varying the location of the Right Elbow. This is why the Snares are very important. You can have very good aligments in the Power Package and still hit it all over the place if your Plane Angle is compromised by faulty Shoulder Motion (which could stem from other preceding components). . . and the Right Elbow location is very important not just in relation to the body . . . but maybe more so in relation to the BALL.
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D . . . agree with you here to a point . . . BUT the right arm IS connected to the right shoulder. Shoulder Motion, Hip Action, Knee Action, Axis Tilt all play a BIG role in the Hand Path components and On-Plane or Off-Plane alignments . . . In turn varying the location of the Right Elbow. This is why the Snares are very important. You can have very good aligments in the Power Package and still hit it all over the place if your Plane Angle is compromised by faulty Shoulder Motion (which could stem from other preceding components). . . and the Right Elbow location is very important not just in relation to the body . . . but maybe more so in relation to the BALL.
Excellent point Bucket.

But Extensor Action controls and Coordinates the Right Shoulder location. It raises the Right Shoulder for Steeper plane angles and lowers it for Flatter plane angles. Using Back and trap muscles can screw this up so only use Right Side Deltoid muscles to Raise the Arms.

I agree that the shoulder ball location is paramount to success. Especially if the Right Shoulder doesn't travel far enough during release and impact. Then the Right Elbow is prevented from moving with the hands through the impact interval and swinging from the wrists is inevitable and thus, the loss of three dimensional impact, thus ball control.

It all goes back to Extensor Action preventing the #4 Accumulator from releasing too early in relation to the Ball. So, its important to keep a Stationary Head, cover the Ball and release when the Hands reach the "Line of Sight to the ball".
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It all goes back to Extensor Action preventing the #4 Accumulator from releasing too early in relation to the Ball.
What's this mean?
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Extensor Force increases as the Right Deltoid Muscle raises the left arm across the chest. This combination pulls the Left Arm while the Right Arm Triceps are pushing below plane.

In 12-3-0 MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES, #25, Extensor Action – Rhythm suggests that this combination helps move all components to the same rpm during Start-Down. It prevents the Left Arm from releasing too soon (Blast Off) while supporting the Power Package Down-Plane motion toward release.
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Planeshift
In my own experience my planeshift is due to
Body controlled Hands.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tarifachris

IF I never saw a video of my own Golfswing I would swear I am
swinging always on the same "Shoulder-Plane" without planeshift -thats my feeling.

But in reality I make a "Reverse Loop" from Elbowplane to
Hands only plane.

My Hands feel only a straight Path to the Plane Line!

If I would try to incorporate a planeshift like my reverse loop
concious - it would need 50 years to hit a Ball.

So I am really happy it happens unconcious... and I feel a straight planeline.

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Old 05-22-2009, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Hi BTS,

The Ying and Yang, the Right Elbow and Hands:

The Hands feel Alignments, and subordinate all components of the Golf Stroke to its command for performing one single imperative; Trace the Plane Line. The Hands sense the Planes angle and Direction and of the two, the direction is more important. The Hands feel only a straight Path to the Plane Line, not curved or angled. Deviation from that straight path, such as plane Shifts Up or Down, forces the Hands to comply with Pivot Positions rather than the Pivot Components complying with the Hands Alignments. The Hands will gladly pass out assignments to the Pivot rather than be thrown around and told to “hang-on”. Geometry over Physics.

The Path and location that the Right Elbow travels, determines The Path and location that the Hands travel. If the Right Elbow truly controls all three elements of a three-dimensional impact, then harnessing the Right Elbow is essential to controlling the Golf Ball. We have three tools at our disposal, which together allow the Hands control of the Right Elbow. “The Magic of the Right Forearm”, “The Right Forearm Flying Wedge” and “Extensor Action”.

Short Swings such as Basic Motion, Chips and Putts, require the Hands to Control the Right Elbow and Arms. Longer Swings draw more Components into Motion and Action and thus, more Components and Actions for the Hands to Control.
That's what I meant: "the plane shifts toward where the action goes"-in your case, the Right Elbow/Forearm.

The pivot action, including sliding, rotating, bumping, tilting or whatever-ing, or their combinations, shifts the plane towards its corrosponding plane, so do(es) the hand(s), the arm(s), the shoulder(s), the lower body, ...., and so on, with the shoulder rotation has literally the minimum of degree of freedom and the actions of the hands and arms the maximum.

On the right-elbow plane, indeed, has the huge advantage. Getting onto that plane, however, demands manipulation, which, depending on the action and, thus, degree of freedom involved, brings various degree of variation, which can luckly be overcome by various degree of instruction and practice.

Shoulder rotation only, in the present of "LAG" and in the absence of "Steering and Hack", can also bring it onto the "Right Elbow Plane" at impact and through impact with, I believe, the minimal variation and, thus, instruction and practice.
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