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Old 05-25-2010, 09:38 AM
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And I also think that Trevinos stroke pattern has something to do with his precision.





"Hitting can be quite accurate". Yoda, to himself after he hit a flagstick on the range some 160 yards away for the second time in five minutes. November 2009 Cuscowilla. He'd go on to hit two more times that day.
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:04 PM
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Hitting can be quite accurate...magic can be quite amazing!
Hi OB, Daryl, Kevin, Jerry, BerntR, 12 Piece and Yoda and everyone who is enjoying golf.

I now know I understand some of the magic of the right forearm, buy everyday with it is a lot like Christmas!


(I'm using that metapohor to show solidarity with my Minnesota and Canadian friends in case it's snowing right now. You guys have given me so much inspiration and enjoyment and I appreciate it!)

I was using my 45 degree tomahawk chop backswing or carry back today, and decided to pretend I was Yoda in any number of videos where he or a student hits a pin. I was thinking only Moe Norman
could really knock down pins and then it hit me like a ton of bricks that RFM (right forearm magic) is not just for dinner or backstrokes anymore and that we are, as Kevin says, Moe's modern relatives!!!!

I started at mid-body or address hands and basic motion aiming at the 100 yard marker using my 58 degree Hogan wedge. As I changed hinges I realized the distance of the wedge, dead online, was anywhere from a vertical hinge (VH) 10 yards to a horizontal hinged (HH) almost 80 yards!

I mixed in RFT and straight thrust down and then a little chip version of crap smacker. It was mostly right shoulder up and down. THE BALL NEVER LEFT THE STICK! I became fascinated with the simplicity of the right arm travelling down the baseline of the plane then target line.

I used all my wedges with my PW HH rolling about 120 yards. Then I accidently chicken-winged (CW) the HH. I LIKED IT A LOT!!! The club face truly determined the path of the ball. THEN I REMEMBERED WHAT JONES SAID ABOUT THE ACURACY OF THE "SHUT-FACE" SWINGERS (Leo Diegel and Josh Swisher if memory serves) OF HIS DAY AND HOW THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS TO ASK THEM TO PUTT OUT THEIR SHOTS LAYING SEVERAL INCHES TO A FEW FEET FROM THE HOLE!

I WAS IN CW AWE! CW thrust, pronounced shoulder roll, CW swing and CW # 3 pp! All straight but the # 3 CW sounded like it was pure each time. My distances and shape were determined by my hinges, naturally. I experimented with a super light vertical and flat left hand neutral and strong grip. The stronger my tripod, the farther and straighter the ball flew.

Mr. Jones said that the shut face crowd suffered with their woods. And earlier in the day, I watched Trevino CW some wedges to keep a straight running chip. I tried the CW with my woods at impact fix. Thrusting a CW was a shorter than normal distance fade or draw depending on ball position. Rolling the back shoulder back and through CW was longer by a lot. My RF braced against my left arm and rolling my right shoulder while keeping my body still and left arm floating allowed me to really extend my right arm 2-3 feet past impact. As long as my LHVFW was light on the grip, the ball listened and I was covering (3-5 feet)markers all over the range with balls ON PURPOSE!!!

Level wrists, light lead grip, underhand toss at targets near and far. Thanks guys for a very fun day and thanks to GSEB John Savage for breaking my non-TGM habits of being off-plane! Oh, and the swing John showed me taking RFM to the endless belt is ridiculously powerful and predictable.

Thanks to everyone!

Patrick







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"Hitting can be quite accurate". Yoda, to himself after he hit a flagstick on the range some 160 yards away for the second time in five mi nutes. November 2009 Cuscowilla. He'd go on to hit two more times that day.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:36 AM
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I am exceedingly glad for you, Patrick. Way to go!
Thanks for the updates. I check for them every day.
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:14 AM
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Patrick,

I love reading your posts. I don't always reply, usually there is nothing left to say...

I can't wait for you to start working with your junior golfers. I see you quickly becoming a huge presence in junior golf in your area just like Jerry has in his. You guys are showing everybody you don't need to have the talent of a tour player to teach, just the best system to learn, and a MAN like YODA and his band of merry G.O.L.F.ers to help us learn.

You HAVE to get to Cuscowilla with Jerry and I next winter for his teaching sessions where we will work towards becoming LBG authorized. I really believe it would help all 3 of us get to the next level. We may not be O.B. or 12 Piece Bucket right away, but it will certainly help us move in their direction.

Kevin

Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
Hi OB, Daryl, Kevin, Jerry, BerntR, 12 Piece and Yoda and everyone who is enjoying golf.

I now know I understand some of the magic of the right forearm, buy everyday with it is a lot like Christmas!


(I'm using that metapohor to show solidarity with my Minnesota and Canadian friends in case it's snowing right now. You guys have given me so much inspiration and enjoyment and I appreciate it!)

I was using my 45 degree tomahawk chop backswing or carry back today, and decided to pretend I was Yoda in any number of videos where he or a student hits a pin. I was thinking only Moe Norman
could really knock down pins and then it hit me like a ton of bricks that RFM (right forearm magic) is not just for dinner or backstrokes anymore and that we are, as Kevin says, Moe's modern relatives!!!!

I started at mid-body or address hands and basic motion aiming at the 100 yard marker using my 58 degree Hogan wedge. As I changed hinges I realized the distance of the wedge, dead online, was anywhere from a vertical hinge (VH) 10 yards to a horizontal hinged (HH) almost 80 yards!

I mixed in RFT and straight thrust down and then a little chip version of crap smacker. It was mostly right shoulder up and down. THE BALL NEVER LEFT THE STICK! I became fascinated with the simplicity of the right arm travelling down the baseline of the plane then target line.

I used all my wedges with my PW HH rolling about 120 yards. Then I accidently chicken-winged (CW) the HH. I LIKED IT A LOT!!! The club face truly determined the path of the ball. THEN I REMEMBERED WHAT JONES SAID ABOUT THE ACURACY OF THE "SHUT-FACE" SWINGERS OF HIS DAY AND HOW THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS TO ASK THEM TO PUTT OUT THEIR SHOTS LAYING SEVERAL INCHES TO A FEW FEET FROM THE HOLE!

I WAS IN CW AWE! CW thrust, pronounced shoulder roll, CW swing and CW # 3 pp! All straight but the # 3 CW sounded like it was pure each time. My distances and shape were determined by my hinges, naturally. I experimented with a super light vertical and flat left hand neutral and strong grip. The stronger my tripod, the farther and straighter the ball flew.

Mr. Jones said that the shut face crowd suffered with their woods. And earlier in the day, I watched Trevino CW some wedges to keep a straight running chip. I tried the CW with my woods at impact fix. Thrusting a CW was a shorter than normal distance fade or draw depending on ball position. Rolling the back shoulder back and through CW was longer by a lot. My RF braced against my left arm and rolling my right shoulder while keeping my body still and left arm floating allowed me to really extend my right arm 2-3 feet past impact. As long as my LHFW was light on the grip, the ball listened and I was covering (3-5 feet)markers all over the range with balls ON PURPOSE!!!

Level wrists, light lead grip, underhand toss at targets near and far. Thanks guys for a very fun day and thanks to GSEB John Savage for breaking my non-TGM habits of being off-plane! Oh, and the swing John showed me taking RFM to the endless belt is ridiculously powerful and predictable.

Thanks to everyone!

Patrick
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
Patrick,

I love reading your posts. I don't always reply, usually there is nothing left to say...

I can't wait for you to start working with your junior golfers. I see you quickly becoming a huge presence in junior golf in your area just like Jerry has in his. You guys are showing everybody you don't need to have the talent of a tour player to teach, just the best system to learn, and a MAN like YODA and his band of merry G.O.L.F.ers to help us learn.

You HAVE to get to Cuscowilla with Jerry and I next winter for his teaching sessions where we will work towards becoming LBG authorized. I really believe it would help all 3 of us get to the next level. We may not be O.B. or 12 Piece Bucket right away, but it will certainly help us move in their direction.

Kevin
Hi Jerry and Kevin! Great idea on a winter research trip! Dates? BTW, what is the TGM term for "chicken-wing" or allowing the hands to stay on the target line without body rotation? I am looking it up in search under "Chicken-wing" and 'no pivot." Any other suggestions?

Pat
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:58 PM
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Kev,
Authorized? Who said anything about authorized? With authorisation comes responsibility. I am the second most irresponsible person I know (I know of no other, but I thought I should leave some room, just in case). I want to learn this stuff and keep learning. I'll share it with our teams as I am able, which is questionable on a daily basis.
Gotta get to Cuscowilla, though, to work on my finish swivel and get Yoda some green tea.
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Old 05-26-2010, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Amazing to see how much waist bend he added. Interesting . . . thanks for putting that up! Sweet.
Im thinking that ideally you need your Hips going ROUND and your Right Shoulder going round too but more DOWN towards the Plane Line. Meaning you need some bend and your "ass on the glass" throughout.

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