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Old 07-24-2010, 11:23 AM
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Jim Hardy One Plane Swing - Is it Hitting or Swinging?
Hi Folks,

I currently use the Jim Hardy One Plane Swing as my swing method.

I am starting to learn TGM and wanted to know how the One Plane Swing would be catagorised by TGM?

Thanks,

Rob
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Old 07-24-2010, 11:36 AM
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How did you settle on the One Plane Swing method to use for the rest of your life rather than the Two plane, Stack and Tilt, or The Rotary Swing?

The One Plane Swing is "Swinging". It's a Double Plane Shifting Rotated Shoulder Turn Elbow Plane Pivot controlled Hands Procedure.

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Old 07-24-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post

The One Plane Swing is "Swinging". It's a Double Plane Shifting Rotated Shoulder Turn Elbow Plane Pivot controlled Hands Procedure.
I agree with all that but I thought the key thought for Hardy starting the back swing was the lawnmower pull with the right arm, with the hands moving the club very deep and around the body, wouldnt this be a hands pivot motion?
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Old 07-24-2010, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
How did you settle on the One Plane Swing method to use for the rest of your life rather than the Two plane, Stack and Tilt, or The Rotary Swing?

The One Plane Swing is "Swinging". It's a Double Plane Shifting Rotated Shoulder Turn Elbow Plane Pivot controlled Hands Procedure.
I decided to use the One Plane method as I have always swung the club in a rotary fashion so it seemed a good fit.

No doubt in time I will find a more refined method using TGM.
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Old 07-24-2010, 02:20 PM
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Mr Titleist, welcome aboard.

Do you have the yellow book? There will be some interesting things for you , there in, given your previous training.

Research these topics first in the book and then around here using the search function. Maybe confine yourself to Yoda's posts for a while.

-Axis Tilt.

-Turned Shoulder Plane

-Standard Shoulder Turn

-Rotated Shoulder Turn. (And note that if you "bump" so to speak you cant really maintain the Plane your shoulder's turn on........as the right shoulder must drop down somewhat, "Axis Tilt", a very good thing. Meaning that you can only truly keep the shoulders turning on the same plane for non weight shift strokes)

- Hands controlled Pivot vs Pivot controlled Hands.

-Divergent Vectors.

-Right Forearm Takeaway. Right Forearm Pickup. Fanning and Bending. Pressure Point #3. Tracing.

-The Sweet spot Plane and how the #3pp attaches to it.

-The Inclined Plane.

-Plane shifts.


Mr Hardy has I think a different meaning to the word "Plane". So you'll have to sort that out first.


Here's a video to noodle over in regard to the Plane and Plane Shifting although there are numerous other types of shifts or a zero shift, not just the one animated here.


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Old 07-26-2010, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
How did you settle on the One Plane Swing method to use for the rest of your life rather than the Two plane, Stack and Tilt, or The Rotary Swing?

The One Plane Swing is "Swinging". It's a Double Plane Shifting Rotated Shoulder Turn Elbow Plane Pivot controlled Hands Procedure.
I probably tried all of those in one week....thats why Im so screwed up

but seriously...I had a guy teaching me Hardy that I may go back to since Ted and Yoda are so far away, and the itallian guy in Louisville seems to have moved too far away from TGM theory for my liking.

I like that I can swing similar to my hockey slap shot w/ Hardy. Ultimately I'd prefer a Brian Gay type pattern, but no near Indy teaching that
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Old 07-26-2010, 03:46 PM
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You aren't that far from Coscowilla. Get thee to COSCOWILLA!! You will no longer be screwed up or unhappy. You will then be joyful and magnanimous in your love of the game of G.O.L.F. Golf ain't G.O.L.F.
Go see Yoda if at all possible.
If you can't do that, come up here with (Twin Cities) City in a couple weeks and bring your Yellow Book. It won't be anywhere near as good as C'willa, but it'll be well intentioned with lots of entertainment.

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I probably tried all of those in one week....thats why Im so screwed up

but seriously...I had a guy teaching me Hardy that I may go back to since Ted and Yoda are so far away, and the itallian guy in Louisville seems to have moved too far away from TGM theory for my liking.

I like that I can swing similar to my hockey slap shot w/ Hardy. Ultimately I'd prefer a Brian Gay type pattern, but no near Indy teaching that
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Old 07-26-2010, 11:47 PM
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Does Jim Hardy teach an active Right Arm throwing like motion? By active I mean its not just right arm motion its right arm work.
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryG View Post
You aren't that far from Coscowilla. Get thee to COSCOWILLA!! You will no longer be screwed up or unhappy. You will then be joyful and magnanimous in your love of the game of G.O.L.F. Golf ain't G.O.L.F.
Go see Yoda if at all possible.
If you can't do that, come up here with (Twin Cities) City in a couple weeks and bring your Yellow Book. It won't be anywhere near as good as C'willa, but it'll be well intentioned with lots of entertainment.
Thanks for the offer Jerry, I really do need to make a swamp visit...

the Twin Cities, thats tempting.... especially since its been so damn hot here all summer.

take care
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Old 07-27-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Does Jim Hardy teach an active Right Arm throwing like motion? By active I mean its not just right arm motion its right arm work.

they unoffically call the move through imapact a "twist and throw" so yes, it is a throw.

With the right elbow still on or just behind the rt hip,(punch) he says to throw the rt forearm in a half circle (circle line delivery?) around low and left while keeping the upper left arm connection

He wants you to use angled hinging although, no surprise, he doesnt say it in TGM terms.

For what its worth, JH says that using angled hinge (not his words) w/ a punch rt elbow is basically what stopped Hogan's hook.
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