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Old 10-21-2010, 06:20 PM
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One other thing. I have three tools/aids that I use regularly. I use the PBS a lot. I have several and they are all quite worn.
I have a Tour Striker. I have the 7 iron and am thinking of purchasing the SW also. Kev has the SW and I tried it a little. Great tool for in the yard and not having to chase balls a long way. I hit that 7-iron so well some days I wouldn't mind having a whole set.
I have a TALY that I use for chipping, pitching and putting. It is another very helpful device.
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Sounds like they can be helpful tools.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:43 PM
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The tour striker looks quite interesting.

A good alternative to a tour striker is IMO to purchase a set of vintage blades on ebay.

Some of those blades are merciless in their feedback. You'll feel it an see it if you fail to hit down on the ball. I bought myself a complete set of some McGregors. They cost me 35$ plus shipment. And the grips were in pristine condition. Killer bargain.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:52 PM
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The tour striker looks quite interesting.

A good alternative to a tour striker is IMO to purchase a set of vintage blades on ebay.

Some of those blades are merciless in their feedback. You'll feel it an see it if you fail to hit down on the ball. I bought myself a complete set of some McGregors. They cost me 35$ plus shipment. And the grips were in pristine condition. Killer bargain.
What's so different with these clubs that you want an extra set? Are they flat on both sides?
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:18 PM
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With the tour striker you are forced to hit down on the ball or else... You get some of the same from an old fasioned blade. They have the COG higher on the face than most modern clubs and the sweet spot is smaller. So they are much less forgiving on off center hits, flipping and a few other usual suspects. If you practice with those for a while, a modern forgiving set becomes very easy to play with.

In my case it was also a matter of wanting to try something flatter. Most clubs have too steep lie angle for me, and the ones I play have the flattest angles I could find. So I started to wonder: How will I respond to even flatter? As it turned out, my normal club are probably pretty close to perfect for me, although a degree or two flatter on some of them would possible make it easier to work the ball both ways.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
The tour striker looks quite interesting.

A good alternative to a tour striker is IMO to purchase a set of vintage blades on ebay.

Some of those blades are merciless in their feedback. You'll feel it an see it if you fail to hit down on the ball. I bought myself a complete set of some McGregors. They cost me 35$ plus shipment. And the grips were in pristine condition. Killer bargain.
I would be interested in hearing opinions on switching back to blades. I still have the only set of irons I ever bought new- MacGregor tourney MT1 vfq with pro-pel 1 shafts. (2-w, cost $62 then).
I put them away and took in Hogan Edge looking for the forgivness factor. Yes they are, but, the feedback is lost so I may have lost the mental concentration that searching for the sweetspot feedback helps.
I am thinking of puting on new grips and back in the bag. What do you think? What will be gained? lost?

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Old 11-11-2010, 01:21 PM
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I would be interested in hearing opinions on switching back to blades. I still have the only set of irons I ever bought new- MacGregor tourney MT1 vfq with pro-pel 1 shafts. (2-w, cost $62 then).
I put them away and took in Hogan Edge looking for the forgivness factor. Yes they are, but, the feedback is lost so I may have lost the mental concentration that searching for the sweetspot feedback helps.
I am thinking of puting on new grips and back in the bag. What do you think? What will be gained? lost?

Thanks
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i've got a set of kzg blades & a set of titlest 695cb. I do like the feel of the blades & switch to them periodically, but they cost me half a club of distance & are less forgiving on poor shots. Perhaps when i have got a few of the ball striking principles from here on board it will be different. HTH
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:33 PM
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Just be careful doing basic motion with Taly, right Kev? Seriously, every time my alignments are off, basic motion brings it on back. Key is down, if you don't know whether you hit down, you did'nt. Trackman shows pga tour players hit every shot, including drivers, with the club moving downwards. Interesting what happens when that is your intent from the top of the backswing, when you swing down, not forward, no roundhousing. Nothing better after a wedge shot than walking ten yards up to recover that divot that looks like a beaver pelt.
Thanks for that, I have been roundhousing all year, hopefully this will help sort it out
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:46 PM
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i've got a set of kzg blades & a set of titlest 695cb. I do like the feel of the blades & switch to them periodically, but they cost me half a club of distance & are less forgiving on poor shots. Perhaps when i have got a few of the ball striking principles from here on board it will be different. HTH
Do the blades make you concentrate better?

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Old 11-12-2010, 05:44 AM
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Do the blades make you concentrate better?

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i'd say not. Sometimes they have made me nervous that i'm not going to get good contact, so that would probably cause me to tense up & make a poorer swing than i would have, that's not concentration obviously. - that's fear

i'm new to TGM but ref. concentration, it seems to me that the bonus is that the principles give one something good, correct & useful to concentrate on (how useful is that !?)... perhaps...

1) right forearm on plane take-away
2) feel load & lag in hands
3) deliver lag pressure to impact & beyond with flat left wrist

i would be trying to concentrate on the process & allow the results to be what they are

if i can get to doing that really consistently with the cb then i'd try again with the blades & see whether i get better feedback that is useful for fine tuning, but i'd be thinking that if i'm not yet making a good job of the swing there is probably not much point in fine tuning with blades.

Don't know how that applies to your situation ?
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tim chapman View Post
i'd say not. Sometimes they have made me nervous that i'm not going to get good contact, so that would probably cause me to tense up & make a poorer swing than i would have, that's not concentration obviously. - that's fear

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Don't know how that applies to your situation ?
My bad. Wrong word. Maybe should say intention rather than concentration.

Let me give my anecdotal example.

I have/had used a Burke "pga" putter (very like the "save-a shot" model)- it has a sweet spot about a silly millimeter wide. I have filed a mark to make the sweet spot easy to find.
I have changed to an inertial putter- broad sweet spot. Both putters same length, lie and grip. I often take out the Burke and practice stroke. When repeatable contact returns (on the sweet spot) I go back to the inertial.
Maybe CB's have made me sloppy and that sweet spot "intention" is something only to be regained with blades.

Just my concern???

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