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Old 11-05-2010, 01:11 PM
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Did Ben Hogan Use Extensor Action?

Where did he write about his application of Extensor Action, if he did use it?

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Old 11-05-2010, 06:24 PM
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Hogan wrote about keeping one arm extended in the swing at all times in 5 Easy lessons.
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:04 PM
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Yes-BUT...
After consideration- I do believe that Hogan had alignment elements that produced ALL the transcribed elements (1-4) of 6-B-1-D but I also believe that Hogan would have described the feel and alignments in a "different" way. That does not necessarily make either feel superior only different. And TGM provides, in fact encourages , such individuality.

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Old 11-08-2010, 10:29 AM
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Hogan said that he wished he had three right hands. I believe there were some right sided drive loading going on.

Which is a bit similar to extencior action except that it is active and not just structural support.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:58 AM
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Hogan said that he wished he had three right hands. I believe there were some right sided drive loading going on.

Which is a bit similar to extencior action except that it is active and not just structural support.
Has anyone found any statement by Hogan that refers to what he meant by 3 right hands? If the Pivot Drives the Right Forearm and the Right Hand Drags the Club, would someone say that they want 3 right hands. What if you were pulling a heavy cart?

My #3 Pressure Point, on occasion, returns to the aft side of the shaft. When that lucky moment happens, I too would like 3 right hands. It "Feels" like my right hand was going along ok, and then suddenly went under-water. It's additional resistance to overcome. It's like my right hand is slicing through the water with a right hand Karate chop, and then, when my Right Hand rotates and faces down the Angle of Approach, it's like trying to "Push" an open palm directly against the water.

I don't know; I'm thinking again.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:48 PM
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Has anyone found any statement by Hogan that refers to what he meant by 3 right hands? If the Pivot Drives the Right Forearm and the Right Hand Drags the Club, would someone say that they want 3 right hands. What if you were pulling a heavy cart?

My #3 Pressure Point, on occasion, returns to the aft side of the shaft. When that lucky moment happens, I too would like 3 right hands. It "Feels" like my right hand was going along ok, and then suddenly went under-water. It's additional resistance to overcome. It's like my right hand is slicing through the water with a right hand Karate chop, and then, when my Right Hand rotates and faces down the Angle of Approach, it's like trying to "Push" an open palm directly against the water.

I don't know; I'm thinking again.
Now I'm hopelessly confused. Isn't the #3 pp ALWAYS supposed to be on the aft side of the shaft?
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:46 PM
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My thinking fwiw
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Has anyone found any statement by Hogan that refers to what he meant by 3 right hands? If the Pivot Drives the Right Forearm and the Right Hand Drags the Club, would someone say that they want 3 right hands. What if you were pulling a heavy cart?

My #3 Pressure Point, on occasion, returns to the aft side of the shaft. When that lucky moment happens, I too would like 3 right hands. It "Feels" like my right hand was going along ok, and then suddenly went under-water. It's additional resistance to overcome. It's like my right hand is slicing through the water with a right hand Karate chop, and then, when my Right Hand rotates and faces down the Angle of Approach, it's like trying to "Push" an open palm directly against the water.

I don't know; I'm thinking again.
I think (that qualifies my comment) that Hogan talks about this where he mentiones the "two handed basketball throw"-AND- trying to break the bulls eye. like "drag the wet mop". I am more and more convinced that #3 pp is ONLY for sensing. IT NEVER moves the lever assembly. If #3 pressure gets to high (a pressure) it is due to poor release. When the impact bag is used- Hold against the bag- not push the club head against the bag but hold your lever assembly against the bag- ALL the way down to your feet.

None of this is Hogans EA

Again - just my feel

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Old 11-08-2010, 02:10 PM
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I'm saying that my hands slow because of Throw-out. I don't always have that amount of precision. But when I do, the Hand slows and I'm forced to push a little. I'm not pushing against the #3 PP. I feel the Slowdown with my Right Hand. I'm pushing with the Palm of the Right Hand to resist the Slow-down.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:40 PM
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I'm saying that my hands slow because of Throw-out. I don't always have that amount of precision. But when I do, the Hand slows and I'm forced to push a little. I'm not pushing against the #3 PP. I feel the Slowdown with my Right Hand. I'm pushing with the Palm of the Right Hand to resist the Slow-down.
I think (AGAIN just me thinking) that is exactly it. the trying to keep hands moving. I think that is why Hogan wanted more hands



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Old 11-08-2010, 03:02 PM
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I think (AGAIN just me thinking) that is exactly it. the trying to keep hands moving. I think that is why Hogan wanted more hands



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Then we're on the same page. I hope it's the right one.
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