Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
Agree with bear about the pivot.
You build the total motion from ground up to the hands. Then you build a command & control system from your hands and down towards the feet.
In my opinion, to play the pivot controlled hands game requires a stroke where you can control the lag pressure all the way through impact. No freewheeling through the ball and no discontinuity in the down stroke. When you have that control, you can just take dead aim and simply think about how you want to hit it and how hard you want to hit it. You need to focus on the lag pressure that you can feel in your hands to get there.
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I just have to understand what you are saying. You also mention pivot controlled hands - which we don't want? I quess that "No freewheeling through the ball and no discontinuity in the down stroke" is a little complicated to grasp. So I'm not sure what's going on - when I can't see it (in me mind). Sorry.
I haven't played any real golf since October. My lousy hcp is still 21,5 and it's supposed to go down to - let's say - 17 this year, based on what I have learned (and have yet to learn?)..
I'm used to playing a lot of par 3 holes (my home course is a par 65). I do my best scoring on par 3's. But we only have 2 long par 3 - about 200 y. So on the shorter ones it isn't that difficult to get a GIR. But on longer par 4 I can't get there in 2 shots - and may miss on the 3th as well and with 35-40 putts it's not that easy (for me) to do any better than bogey - and I usually have more double bogeys than par - so to be realistic a round better than +18 is not be be expected without being in the "zone".
Not every shot is perfect (almost none of the shots are "perfect"), so where should the lower scoring come from? Maybe 18-20 is good enough if it can be done on a regular basis. Time will tell. Good scoring has to coinside with good statistics - in GIR, driving distance, fairway hits, putting etc. Dream on ...
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind:
Better golf.
i.e.
Better driving, pitching, chipping, bunker shots, putting...
I just have to understand what you are saying. You also mention pivot controlled hands - which we don't want? I quess that "No freewheeling through the ball and no discontinuity in the down stroke" is a little complicated to grasp. So I'm not sure what's going on - when I can't see it (in me mind). Sorry.
I was mixing the terms here. I meant hands controlled pivot.
I was mixing the terms here. I meant hands controlled pivot.
Well, that helps.
Isn't the whole business of the hands controlled pivot that the right hand/forearm starts the backstroke and everything else - the pivot (hips and shoulders) and the flying wedges follow (in a connected way)? + the foot work
In my opinion the whole point is to be "hands on" at the moment of truth (impact).
I had the impression that Yoda favoured a back stroke that started with the hands and the hands only. I can make it work but I don't like it.
However, after watching his videos from the PGA conference it appeared that the feet and hips and shoulders are into it as well. From the very first beginning.
If I understand this correct:
Yoda teaches the stroke with emphasis on the hands and on the right side of the pivot. But that doesn't mean that the rest of the body isn't in on it. I think he emphasises the parts that he want the student to focus, while the other parts is supposed or deemed to respond accordingly. So: When you pick up the club with the right forear, the pivot starts to move at the same time. So in other words, it's not only the club you put in motion with the RF pickup. You put the hips, feet and shoulders in motion too.
If you watch when Yoda talks about Davis Love's waggle - coupled with the MacDonald drill (left-right-left-right) you will see that the feet responds to the motion of the arms.
In my opinion the whole point is to be "hands on" at the moment of truth (impact).
I had the impression that Yoda favoured a back stroke that started with the hands and the hands only. I can make it work but I don't like it.
However, after watching his videos from the PGA conference it appeared that the feet and hips and shoulders are into it as well. From the very first beginning.
If I understand this correct:
Yoda teaches the stroke with emphasis on the hands and on the right side of the pivot. But that doesn't mean that the rest of the body isn't in on it. I think he emphasises the parts that he want the student to focus, while the other parts is supposed or deemed to respond accordingly. So: When you pick up the club with the right forear, the pivot starts to move at the same time. So in other words, it's not only the club you put in motion with the RF pickup. You put the hips, feet and shoulders in motion too.
If you watch when Yoda talks about Davis Love's waggle - coupled with the MacDonald drill (left-right-left-right) you will see that the feet responds to the motion of the arms.
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