Hit some balls tonight using the drill mentioned above before each shot. The mid irons were great (7 - 8 irons was approaching from the inside no problems)
However as soon as i went down to the PW or SW i was coming over the top each time.
Anyone got any ideas why I would be more prone to the OTT move with the short irons? (checked i was the right distance away and seemed ok) it was shank city and the tee i placed outside the ball was getting snapped every time....
If Homer Kelley wrote a book about the Geometry and Physics of OTT swings, it would be 366 pages. There would be 36 Components and each would have 10 Variations. However I have no doubt that his preferred pattern for Drag Loading 12-2-0 would include:
3- Stroke Basic___H___Right Shoulder Hurl
5- Plane Line_____F___Bent
19- Lag Loading___C___None
Sorry about the above. It’s just my sense of Humor.
A more direct route to cure the OTT move is to start over. Basic motion. Drag the Club. Allow CF to do the work. Drag the Club. Drag the Club. Drag the Club. Keep in mind, that Extensor Action applies to the left shoulder as well. Don't turn the left shoulder under the Chin; rather, stretch it to that location. Tug-of-war. If your left side pulls, then your right side won't push.
A more direct route to cure the OTT move is to start over. Basic motion. Drag the Club. Allow CF to do the work. Drag the Club. Drag the Club. Drag the Club.
Basic motion is ok... it's when i get into acquired motion and start introducing the pivot then the problems start. I can chip a 1000 balls and not shank any of them
Basic motion is ok... it's when i get into acquired motion and start introducing the pivot then the problems start. I can chip a 1000 balls and not shank any of them
Don't turn the Left Shoulder under the Chin. Stretch it to under the chin.
Basic motion is ok... it's when i get into acquired motion and start introducing the pivot then the problems start. I can chip a 1000 balls and not shank any of them
Try this.
Address the ball,take the club back to the right forearm parallel to the ground position(aquired motion).Do NOT pivot to get to this point.
Right forearm is parallel to the ground with whatever wristcock you normally have at this stage.
Now,keeping your head very still add enough shoulder turn and pivot to get you to the top.It may feel to you like a very "small" move.
Now from this position practice the downstoke waggle,bump the hips parallel to the plane line ,notice how your hands go DOWN ON PLANE.
I too had/have problems with the shorter irons-OVERACCELERATION is my problem,these clubs accelerate very quickly when swung on plane FEEL THE LAG PRESSURE AND SUSTAIN THAT PRESSURE-YOU CANNOT DO IT IF YOU ARE AT ALL QUICK.
Hope this helps as one step along the road.
The Drill. Grab your Dowel. Grip half way down with you left hand only. Take your right hand, go under your left and put the back of your right hand back to back with your left hand. Make your Backswing and feel your left shoulder stretch under your chin. On the downswing note how the right shoulder stays back on plane.
Try this.
Address the ball,take the club back to the right forearm parallel to the ground position(aquired motion).Do NOT pivot to get to this point.
Right forearm is parallel to the ground with whatever wristcock you normally have at this stage.
Now,keeping your head very still add enough shoulder turn and pivot to get you to the top.It may feel to you like a very "small" move.
Now from this position practice the downstoke waggle,bump the hips parallel to the plane line ,notice how your hands go DOWN ON PLANE.
I too had/have problems with the shorter irons-OVERACCELERATION is my problem,these clubs accelerate very quickly when swung on plane FEEL THE LAG PRESSURE AND SUSTAIN THAT PRESSURE-YOU CANNOT DO IT IF YOU ARE AT ALL QUICK.
Hope this helps as one step along the road.
Thanks Neil, it's just a weird feeling that i'd rather have driver or long iron in my hands than a wedge. Like you said perhaps it's an over acceleration issue with the wedges? i'm not attempting to make a different swing at least
I was lifting and rolling the club, laying it off at the top, straightening up out of my posture a bit, and would get my weight towards my toes. The more I was bent over the worse it got, so the short irons had the poorest results. I had to think more under and up instead of out and around...helped a lot. My backswing felt short and steep at first, but that "feel" changed quick and often, so verifying it via video was (still is) a must for me. Daryl's drill above would have helped me with this problem
I had a really tough time solving this one as well. I became rather succesful with the solution.
This problem personally for me is caused by , "The impulse to drive the ball squarely FORWARD towards the target" thus the right shoulder wants to participate in a way unfavourable. And the solution , 2-N-0 Underpitch must be present to prevent Roundhousing. learning to let the shoulder stay back and down .
I solved it as per Comdpa personal suggestion to learn to feel to square a tennis racket on a horizontal path. keeping the shoulder back and down.
Also As per Yoda , perform this as drill: 10-5-E close close stance, Strong double action wrist, In to Out path, Cut shot. Post. Did alot of those. took me a while to understand why yoda suggested this too.
So the objective is to get the more " out down and replace the incorrect forward impact with the correct ones ... 3 dimensinal impact.
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