I diagnosed the problem on an impact lie board. Toe down impact appearing with a visually on plane motion.
I was left hand karate chopping and impact was just not pure like, say, a month before.
I am happy to report progress in taking into consideration your replies and noting my address position had my hands "high" and my wrists slightly arched.
That arch in the left wrist seems to be what was appearing through impact.
I have practiced basic motion and some acquired motion with this in mind, "look , look, looking" at my address. I seem to be on the road to recovery. An A1 probably would have spotted this right out, but I have not been able to locate any here in NE Ohio.
I have about 300 basic motion repetitions under my belt at this point. Aiming for Yoda's "a coupla thousand" !
Kinda. Here's what I'm saying . . . imagine you have a string with a weight on the end. You start swinging it around in a circle with some of the string still left in your hand. Now you let some of the string out so the radius effectively just got longer. Assuming uniform circular motion (you don't add torque or force to speed it up), angular momentum will be conserved. So when you had the relatively smaller circle the weight traveled faster in terms of RPMs. But once you extended the radius the RPMs (angular velocity) DECREASED inorder to conserve angular momentum (=MassXAngularVelocityXRadius). The mass is constant so when the radius gets bigger or smaller as a result the RPMs must increase or decrease accordingly. BUT . . . with the larger radius you are picking up Tangential Velocity as a result of the weight being farther from the center of rotation.
So basically radius increases then angular velocity decreases BUT tangential speed increases. This is what Homer meant by Surface Speed. The RPM of the entire system is decreasing as the radius is extended but clubhead speed surface speed increases geometrically as a result of the EXTENSION and not the effort to create more handspeed.
This is why Homer said the Swinger needs a quick start down. As a result of the lever assembly being out-of-line due to wrist cock it is easier to accelerate because its moment of inertia is smaller (think of the string deal with the smaller circle). With a smaller radius you can really get the thing whipping around (accelerating angularly) fast. So you have jacked up the rpms of the system via the out of line condition (shortened radius). Then as the lever assembly gets extented via the uncocking surface speed gets multiplied because the clubhead is further from the center. Thus Homer says the Swinger cranks the gyroscope and then just hangs on. You don't need to "add" you just need to EXTEND. The extension is the mechanical advantage via the conservation of angular momentum. It is LAW. Law don't take no lunch breaks.
I find this portion of this quote fascinating.
I see a very short radius in Phil Mickelson's swinging motion. I think he keeps his radius as tight as possible.
Is this in line with what you were saying bucket?
I really messed around with this concept yesterday via a straight line deliver with a hard rope pull maneuver. Driver speeds increased by 5mph instantly and my hands were much further forward at the delivery position.
shows good here at about 1:45
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I see a very short radius in Phil Mickelson's swinging motion. I think he keeps his radius as tight as possible.
Is this in line with what you were saying bucket?
I really messed around with this concept yesterday via a straight line deliver with a hard rope pull maneuver. Driver speeds increased by 5mph instantly and my hands were much further forward at the delivery position.
shows good here at about 1:45
here's a few to consider in this regard . . . . I really really really like this dude . . . talked to him on the phone today . . . nice cat smart cookie . . . . watch all these videos. There's a lot of endless belt stuff in this and pulley diameter stuff here . . . baseball is a bit different due to the ball being struck generally more downplane in baseball . . . this is some good stuff . . .
this here is another fascinating study to me . . . .
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Awesome stuff Bucket....any nuggets you can share from your conversation?
Nothing really different than the cats videos but they are all worth watching. One thing that he thought through his studies that speed was developed EARLY in the motion and any speed that was missed basically you couldn't make up. Had these kids hitting a heavy bag with a bat essentially trying to "spend" everything at the bag. Basically said that any "speed" that people were trying to achieve after the ball was gone was wasted speed that shoulda/coulda been used earlier in the motion.
I couldn't pin him down much on golf but that top hand torque deal . . . via the rotation of the forearm . . . I see that happening with cats like Fowler, Sergio, Moe and of course Hogan.
Nothing really different than the cats videos but they are all worth watching. One thing that he thought through his studies that speed was developed EARLY in the motion and any speed that was missed basically you couldn't make up. Had these kids hitting a heavy bag with a bat essentially trying to "spend" everything at the bag. Basically said that any "speed" that people were trying to achieve after the ball was gone was wasted speed that shoulda/coulda been used earlier in the motion.
I couldn't pin him down much on golf but that top hand torque deal . . . via the rotation of the forearm . . . I see that happening with cats like Fowler, Sergio, Moe and of course Hogan.
I'm sorry 12 PB if I'm reiterating what you've said or alluded to already. I could not help but think of Freddy Couples or Kenny Perry when doing this!!!!
Yep, you can SPIn, SPIn, SPin the Flywheel quickly, but you also could slowly Float Load a Hit (I'm sorry if I'm crossing components). What I mean is that you could really ease into this Pivot delaying the lash. Pure compression.
Just glide the Power Package close to that ball and WHAM!
I'm officially pysched! All the Lag seems to unleash right at the ball and is fully dissipated with a perfect on balance finish. SO COOL!
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I couldn't pin him down much on golf but that top hand torque deal . . . via the rotation of the forearm . . . I see that happening with cats like Fowler, Sergio, Moe and of course Hogan.
I like a lot of what he's saying, you could put that pulley wheel on a golfers plane and itd look really familiar to us. Radial Acceleration (Release) when the Hands take the corner or pulley wheel etc etc.
The top hand torque thing in startdown he is describing ......... Im trying to figure out how that adds power for the batter?
Boy a lot to think about. I thought the hands were just clamps. Course there is the left wrist uncocking on plane. Oh and then I learned never add anything. If I add anything once I start down things aren't better. If I am swinging according to "someone" you can do it with the left arm only ie top hand and that is a side arm frisbee throw. Or you can do it with the right arm only ie top hand and perhaps that requires adduction(instead of or in addition to) , underhanded motion, or you can use both arms swinging. Anyway with top hand thoughts that has to be coordinated with getting the right side thru and with bottom hands thoughts that has to be coordinated with getting the left side out of the way. Of course the mind should be in the hands anyway!. Oh I almost forgot CP and CF procedures. I guess CP would be bottom hand and CF top hand. Course I am trying to throw it out and not throw it away. I was so excited when I went to the range today in a short sleeve shirt to work on all this. I must admit I was just confused and today I have "tennis elbow", am sore all over and don't think I can swing a club being so out of shape. Thanks a lot bucket!. Your stuff was fascinating but scrambled my brain. I think I am going to just keep it simple KISS. Oh well. As a left I appreciate the top hand and bottom hand appellations, however it seems that in baseball the top hand never becomes the bottom hand and in golf the top hand at the top becomes the bottom hand at impact or have I just screwed it up and is that why I am just not getting it. HEEEEEEELP
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