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Old 01-17-2008, 08:40 PM
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Left Arm Flying Wedge
the dowel drils have been helpful and when i transfer the feeling to the club my stupid body doesnt get it. Are there any other ideas of working on the left arm flying wedge. I have even tried using a dowel in the ground just behind me and placing it verticle so that if I loose that verticle relationship the dowel gets hit by the club and there is immediate feedback , nothing like making 20 swings and still hitting the dowel after perfect practice swings.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:46 PM
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the dowel drils have been helpful and when i transfer the feeling to the club my stupid body doesnt get it. Are there any other ideas of working on the left arm flying wedge. I have even tried using a dowel in the ground just behind me and placing it verticle so that if I loose that verticle relationship the dowel gets hit by the club and there is immediate feedback , nothing like making 20 swings and still hitting the dowel after perfect practice swings.
??????? I just do not get this!
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:10 PM
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Sorry for the confusion, when i work with the dowels in the mirror i can maintain the left and right very well. when i put a club in my hands the club i loose the vertical only motion. Basically what ends up happening is the club gets underplane or behind me and the left wrist arches. The dowel in the ground part, I will make a good practice swing and then place a dowel, or driveway reflector in the ground just past my right foot by about 2 feet and inline with my heel. This gives me feedback when the club gets underplane or behind me. I will try to post a couple of images showing the problem here to clarify things.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:51 AM
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You could also get even more precision if you set the dowel ON PLANE!
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:34 PM
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the dowel drils have been helpful and when i transfer the feeling to the club my stupid body doesnt get it. Are there any other ideas of working on the left arm flying wedge. I have even tried using a dowel in the ground just behind me and placing it verticle so that if I loose that verticle relationship the dowel gets hit by the club and there is immediate feedback , nothing like making 20 swings and still hitting the dowel after perfect practice swings.
You need EA. Extensor Action. Is the added Clubhead weight (Swingweight) the difference between the dowel and Golfclub? Yes.

Extensor Action is the key that creates a bond between your arms, hands and club. It unifies them thus creating Levers. Most golfers just think it's the Grip. But it's not just the Grip.

Try this trick to learn Extensor Action.

Extensor Action Primer:

Get the Dowel. Grip the Dowel as usual but lightly. You need a light grip when learning this because you will be using a little muscular effort to align the Clubshaft and Left Arm. Very Lightly grip the the Dowel. Softly straighten your left arm. With your Right Hand, softly pull (Push) on the stick until the stick becomes in-line with your left arm. Your arms don't have to move at this point. Softly. Just use the fingers of your right hand if you have to until you learn to get the clubshaft and left arm in-line. Here’s the trick. Softly and simultaneously tug back with your left hand (don't bend your left arm). While pushing softly with your right hand and tugging ever so softly with your left hand, move the club backwards and forwards by slightly bending and straightening your right elbow. The Clubhead end moves just about a foot or two. Notice how the Dowel does exactly what you want and moves precisely in unison with your arms and hands. Softly, your left hand and right hand are playing tug-o-war on the grip end. Do it a few times with the dowel. Then do it a few times with the club. Now, (and this is very important) keep your left hand ever so slightly tugging and add a little more push/pull/tug to your right hand as you bend and straighten your right elbow. The Club becomes part of you. It's not just a push with the right arm to straighten the left arm. It's not about just straightening the Left Arm. It's about Unifying the Club and Left Arm. You need to feel the Left Hand resisting the Right Arm Push. In this regard, the Left arm is not as simple as a rope.

Let me know how it worked. As you get better at it, you'll begin to push harder. The Harder you swing, the harder you'll push and the tighter you'll grip the club. To a point.

PS. That's a Hitters procedure. Not a Swingers. The Swinger does it slightly different. But learn Hitting EA first because it's so simple. You learned to create the Primary Lever and the Left Arm Flying Wedge.
I think the more correct thought would be that the Extensor Action Primer above is more useful for Loading the Primary Lever. The Swinger will use Extensor Action in a way that allows the Secondary Lever to load.

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Old 01-19-2008, 10:34 AM
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Swingers and Extensor Action
From a Hitters perspective, Extensor Action Unifies the Left Arm and Clubshaft into a straight Lever. Extensor Action is a very simple action. With 10-18-C, the #3 Pressure point will be directly opposed to the Primary Lever at the “Top” of the Swing. The Left Arm Flying Wedge is very important to the Hitter. The Left Wrist Cocks because the Right Elbow Bends. The Right Wrist should not Cock 7-3. With 10-18-C, the right Elbow moves slightly away from the body during the backswing in comparison to 10-18-A. This is a good combination for the Hitter because the Right Elbow will be in a position to “Punch” during release 10-3-A. If you're a Hitter and you face a wall, and go to “Top” Position, and open the fingers in your right hand, your palm will approximately face the wall.

For Swingers, with 10-18-A, if you face a wall and go to “Top” Position (not “End”) and Open the Fingers of your right hand, your palm will almost face your head. If you go to “End” position, and open the fingers of your right hand, your palm will face the wall. The difference between “Top” and “End” is a lot from the Right Hands point of view. Use 10-18-A and go to “Top”. You need to bend the Left Wrist to keep the Right Wrist not only Level but to keep the Right Hand from Cocking as well. If your right palm is facing the wall, then you have cocked your Right Hand.

You can Cock your Right Hand as Well as Cock your Right Wrist. Cocking the Right Wrist is like Cocking the Left Wrist 4-B-2. But you can Cock (Roll) the Right Hand Too. You Cock the Right Hand by Rolling the Right Forearm 4-C-3. Very few people, including Pros, can Turn as far as “End”. It takes enormous flexibility. Maybe a 12 year old can, but very few adults. The tragedy for most Golfers though, is that they are only flexible enough to go to “Top” but Cock their Right Hand because they think that “On Plane” is only when the Clubshaft is Horizontal to the ground and Pointing toward the Target. IF A SWINGER Cocks his Right Hand and/or Cocks his Right Wrist, he cannot Sequence the Release. Maybe in slow motion but not in a normal swing. During Release, the Swinger can Straighten his Right Elbow and Then Roll His Level Right Wrist (Swivel) into Impact). He cannot Straighten his Right Elbow and Uncock His Right Wrist and then Roll His Right Wrist.

Now comes the difference between Extensor Action for a Hitter and Extensor Action for a Swinger. For a Hitter, EA direction is down the left arm in order to create a straight line from the Left Shoulder to the Clubhead AND have a FLAT LEFT WRIST throughout the swing (Bent Right Wrist From Startup to Finish Swivel). For a Swinger, EA is straight down the Clubshaft and begins at 10-19-A. When a Swinger Turns 10-18-A on the Backswing, the EA direction remains down the Shaft and remains down the Shaft until the Finish Swivel. The Swinger swivels to a Flat Left Wrist at Impact but does not have a Flat Left Wrist During The Backswing or Downswing. You cannot load the Secondary Lever with a Flat Left Wrist. If you have a Flat Left Wrist at “Top”, then you can only Load the Primary Lever.

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Old 01-19-2008, 12:38 PM
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"#3 Pressure Point Opposed to"
Ok. What is the meaning of the #3 Pressure Point being directly opposed to? 7-3 In English.
If you go to the top of your swing and add pressure to the #3 pressure point and the force of the pressure uncocks the left wrist and the clubhead goes toward the right wall, then the #3 pressure point opposes the secondary lever. If the pressure moves the Primary lever (it will push the primary lever toward the wall in front of you) then the #3 pressure point opposes the Primary Lever. In a Golf Swing you don’t put pressure on the #3 Pressure point like in this example. The pressure results from lag.

I stand prepared to be corrected because my use of the term "Top" position is somewhere between Aquired Motion and End.

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Old 01-19-2008, 03:00 PM
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Wow Darrly, still processing the info and after dinner tonight it should have sat well in the incubator. I will get back to you on the results. Meanwhile im using the trusty dowel and a few clubs in my new and improved office, full of mirrors and other training aids. After the rare snow we have had this morning as well as rain is dried up I will definatly be able to put this to good use. I think that the day will be best spent in front of the mirror and in the chair educating my hands and arms. First impression is while trying to pull back toward the shoulder joint with the left arm and pulling down the shaft with the right, there is definatly a feeling of unison there. i have never felt that structured with the left arm. Ill be back this evening with more
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Old 01-19-2008, 03:00 PM
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Darryl, thanks for the time and the knowledge is greatly appreciated. My hat is off to you as well as im on my knees bowing for your graciousness (SP)
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Old 01-19-2008, 04:00 PM
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Wow Darrly, still processing the info and after dinner tonight it should have sat well in the incubator. I will get back to you on the results. Meanwhile im using the trusty dowel and a few clubs in my new and improved office, full of mirrors and other training aids. After the rare snow we have had this morning as well as rain is dried up I will definatly be able to put this to good use. I think that the day will be best spent in front of the mirror and in the chair educating my hands and arms. First impression is while trying to pull back toward the shoulder joint with the left arm and pulling down the shaft with the right, there is definatly a feeling of unison there. i have never felt that structured with the left arm. Ill be back this evening with more
I'm glad you got the feeling. Just remember that the slight tugging with your left arm is only in the direction of your shoulder and not from pulling back with the shoulder. What you're learning is how the left arm is resisting the right arm extensor action and thereby unifying the structure. The Grip is no longer a simple clamp. Not when you apply Extensor Action. When I use Extensor Action I feel most of the resistance in my Left Wrist.
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